SCOTUS overturns Louisiana law restricting abortion access

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Well certainly some of the funding can come from planned parenthood. Maybe some from the recipient and maybe even some donations.
     
  2. Egoboy

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    Why do you think planned parenthood was created?
     
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    And that is your chocie.

    But passing a law that would mean the number of Opthamologist offices in your State would be reduced to one would probably piss you off.
     
  5. Egoboy

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    I just don't see that happening....

    :roflol::roflol:
     
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    Don't care - as this will not change the fact that a single human cell is not a human - which was the flaw in your premise.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    And remains a single cell human for a matter of hours I don't think women are having single cell babies killed in abortion clinics.

    If is FACT from a scientific basis and those disclaiming are the anti-science here. I'm an atheist, you are the one trying to inject religion to support your claim and that has no place in law.
     
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    It is rather commonplace and why done outpatient but with that sign on the wall I'd be out so fast the door wouldn't have a chance. How about you?
     
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    Or, protest and/or burn them to the ground and/or attack the employees that work in them.
     
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    Whatever, dude.
    What should have happened is that all of those apoplectic right wingers who have spent the past 50 years fulminating against abortion would have created and funded a national maternal care and adoption outreach for any pregnant women offering them an alternative to an abortion.
    I'm sure that right wing generosity would have easily covered the costs of the services, and many babies would have been saved from abortion and raised in loving homes.
    I suspect that you could have also attracted a lot of liberals to donate to the program.
    But we all know it's not really about the sanctity of life with the evangelicals, is it?
     
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    Get two more just like them and perhaps we'll be in business.
     
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    "Where the need is most urgent", at least our discussion has evolved to understanding birth control is primarily an economic device to keep babies from being born in poverty. In general, I do believe that abortion(which has some risks to the mother), should be carried out by professional medical experts not so much the clinics, but it's whatever.
     
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    That sounds more like a Congressional issue just like they vote on how much to include for Planned Parenthood.
    Direct your questions for evangelicals at one.
     
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    Roberts, in the Texas ruling, took the opposite vote. He switched here because in the prior ruling it was shot down, with Kennedy as the swing vote. So, Roberts said he was voting in favor of the plaintiff because of 'stare decisis' (SCOTUS respecting precedent) for if he didn't , he was concerned that the court would descend into partisans with robes.

    I believe the standing issue was resolved in the ruling.
     
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    making abortions illegal does not stop abortions, but it does result in more deaths to females, and, as such, there is nothing 'pro life' about making abortions illegal. I'm against late term abortions, third trimester, or anything past 22-24 weeks, when the fetus has become pretty much human. If your religion is the reason you are against abortion, my religion dictates reincarnation, so in my religion, abortions are not a problem because it states that the soul will just migrate to another womb. In other words, don't lay "Thou Shalt Not Kill" on me if that is your argument.

    The measure of 'undue burden' is requiring doctors to get hospital admitting privileges to hospitals within 40 mile: They said it would leave only one doctor at a single clinic to provide services for nearly 10,000 women who seek abortions in the state each year.

    Before R v W, young women were being butchered and killed by incompetent back alley abortions, self performed abortions, etc., It was a mess. Making abortion illegal, similar to making alcohol illegal, does NOT stop abortion, and, in fact, making it illegal disproportionally causes more harm to poor females, who, unlike rich folks, cannot fly to other countries where they can get it done. They go to Mexico, or they do it themselves, where there are no medical supervisions, no way to deal with it if there is an emergency, etc. So,R v W saves lives. The point is, there is no solution that is not evil, for or against. So, voting against R v W does not eliminate blood stained hands.

    I know how republicans think, it does something like this: 'well if she does it, it's on her, not me'.

    No, it's on you for supporting a public policy that, ultimately results in more deaths to females, needlessly, while not actually preventing abortions.
     
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    I can't get upset over this. I'm happy to step aside and let the left abort itself out of existence. mankind would be better off.
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    The opposite is true, if the law had passed, well, the Two Louisiana doctors and a medical clinic sued to get the law overturned. They said it would leave only one doctor at a single clinic to provide services for nearly 10,000 women who seek abortions in the state each year.

    Less safe if it had passed, in other words.
     
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    the law did pass...nothing forbid the clinics to compel with the law and therein be able to have more doctors
     
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    Whatever, the court ruling said that Louisianna cannot force doctors to acquire admitting priviledges to local hospitals in order to perform abortions at clinics.
     
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    the law required the clinics to hire doctors with admitting privileges. hardly an undo burden on the actual people of LA which is the standard.
     
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    Unconstitutional over-reach by the courts to regulate the states! You would think people serving on the courts would understand this, but I guess they aren't that smart.
     
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    To provide health care (birth control, prenatal care, STD care, abortion, etc.) to those who couldn't afford expensive doctors or had the means to travel to Europe to have an abortion.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause: So TRUE!
     
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    That's it in a nutshell !!!!!!:applause::applause:
     

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