White couple aims guns at St. Louis protesters

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BWAHAHAHAHA!!! I was right. The two home owners were indeed Democrats and they donate heavily to Democratic Candidates.

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    I bet they will still vote for Joe Biden. They were smart enough to get their own guns, even if they don't know how to properly use them. These idiots became heroes and they need training in a big way. My wife would never point a gun around like that unless she was pulling the trigger. The guy should have had that AR-15 pointing straight up or down, but not what he did. Regardless, they had every right to protect themselves and their property from their fellow Democrats.
     
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    BS Nazis sadly are right wing and you know it.
     
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    That fallacy has been nuked repeatedly. The National Socialist German Workers' Party means it was anything but "right wing" and you should know that.

    Just because you Leftists try to re-write history does not mean we will blindly follow along like sheep. Even this Democrat couple that donates to Democratic Candidates knew to protect themselves from fellow Leftists.
     
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    If that is the real gate that was breached then the two goofballs had the right to use force since that looks like it would be within their EUA -Exclusive Use Area of the association.

    The only thing that bothers me about the picture is why there are so many cars on the road of a private association. In our association which is composed of private toads we would only see that many cars on very rare occasions.

    PS That gate is way more decorative than functional. It's a symbolic gate. They need with a minimum of 5/8 inch thick bars.
     
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    The fallacy is one that you believe. You cannot go by the name just because sneaky Adolf has "socialist" in it. The old East Germany was officially named the German Democratic Republic. It was never Democratic, never a republic, and with so. Any Soviet Russian turds incountry itvwas barely German in culture.

    Go and look through history and you will find many countries that have Democratic and or Republic in that are Communist, fascist , or just plain old dictatorships.

    So much for a name.

    PS! What is the "you leftist " Turd talk all about? I don't see any leftists in my house.
     
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    I wonder if that A2 was giggle activated? If so, its probably one of the single most valuable pieces of personal property they own that's not jewelry or a car. Too bad they couldn't spend $300 on a class on basic firearm best practices
     
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    It's a rod iron gate and the road in the back is a public road. This side of the gate is the gated community leading to the McCloskey property.
     
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    I do, but it was not on the McClosky's property so they don't get to freely point a gun at any of the 500 people who were there because of a protection to property claim the HOA, the actual owner of the street on which they trespassed, could have had.
    Literally the law regarding use of force in MO requires they be charged in writing with defense of the HOA's property if they want to use a castle law defense of other's property claim and I guarantee you if they had that they would already have produced it.
    Since they don't have that they have to rely on individual claims for use of force on a case by case basis. When Patricia points a gun at a person, that person has to have been offering a threat to herself, Mark, or their property. Patricia has released a statement after consultation with counsel that there were only "2 bad actors" who made any threats. That means she admits she was only ever authorized as against "2 bad actors" and she very clearly points at more people than that. Because she opened her mouth and offered that there were only "2 bad actors" she's not going to be able to say there were more than 2 now because her "only 2 bad actors" quote will be used to impeach her and ruin her credibility.
     
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    Which would be fine if Patricia, after consultation with counsel, hadn't released a statement saying she wasn't afraid of a mob but of "2 bad actors" amidst "peaceful protesters". That makes it impossible to use the "I feared a mob so I kept them all covered" argument without getting her credibility impeached on the stand.

    If she just HAD to have a statement, if her statement had simply said "We were afraid of mob violence after the recent yadda yadda yadda so that's why I was pointing the gun at people: because I was afraid for my life, my husband's life, and our property; people were yelling threats, particularized to us and our home and our dog, and the mob was getting out of hand. I didn't want someone to rush us so I had to continuously keep various persons covered as I was in fear of my life from the whole crowd" then she would be able to credibly maintain the defense you've offered. The problem is she nailed herself down to a particular fact pattern, seemingly because she and her husband are big deal democrat civil rights attorneys and she wanted to virtue signal.
    This is why you don't release statements.
     
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    They actually didn't need to do anything. They could've simply sat on their porch with weapons in hand and told the people to move the **** on, this wasn't the mayor's house.

    The first time karen tries to shoot that gun, if shes actually loaded it properly, holding it all limp like that its going to go flying out of her hand and if she's dealing with a mob they are going to tear her limb from limb.

    Shooting the mob at the gate: They'd be facing murder charges. The gate is not their property, they don't have a letter from the HOA saying "defend the common areas".
     
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    Thanks, Ok I suspected that to be so. Now does that path lead directly to Bonnie and Clyde's home?
     
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    There is more than one side of the story, but you wouldn’t know it by the MSM.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...ney-investigating-couple-that-pointed-guns-at
    The question is, What would you do? Mount a defense, however potentially futile or submit to the will of an unpredictable mob that breached private property posted as such, and were threatening your lives?
    Been there, done that.... lost my property, but lived. Alternative would have been losing my property, but not surviving.
     
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    And on this day the NRA found their new poster!
     
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    The REAL Nazis try to force their views on others, which is basically the left wing. Keep living in that denial though, I bet that dreamworld is nice and cozy!
     
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    Ah hell no!! If anything, maybe use them in a training video of what NOT to do with a firearm.
     
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    Stay in the house or on the porch and repel by main force anyone who ACTUALLY opened themselves up to it by attacking the house or myself (probably in the house, honestly. No need to stand in the open like a dumbass). Not allow my wife to go traipsing about the property, apparently intoxicated, limp wristedly waving a PPK knockoff around at the crowd, at me, (hell probably even at herself though I admit I haven't looked at it closely enough to see if she sweeps herself too), when we apparently fear an angry mob coming on the property. Not allow my wife to expose herself to potential legal liability by said wild handling of a pistol, not to mention that only one of us needs to be outside the other needs to be watching other entrances to the home.

    What they did was legally and tactically foolish. Point that out and all of a sudden you're a monstrous liberal come to eat everyone's children, even when you're not a liberal at all.
     
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    The side walk around their property is not their property. Its the HOA's property.
     
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    It's still private property and considered communal common areas, maintained by the homeowners association but paid through the property owners. They also did walk on both sides of the sidewalk (grass areas) which ARE his property.
     
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    Do you have a minute count in a video I should look at for spots where people are actually on the grass?
     
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    Yeah, their weapon handling could be better but you can forget about gun control for a generation,
     
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    The "peaceful" protestors brought at least one AK-47 to the event.



    I hope the "peaceful" protestors are successful in ousting their Democratic Party Mayor. Because, you know they will make a real change and just put another Democratic Candidate or Socialist in the office.
     
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    Agreed. The wife had clearly never shot the gun and the husband needs some real training. He pointed that gun at her at least once. as he waved it around. Point that gun up or down. If you are going to point in-between, you should be pulling the trigger.
     
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    And if you're pulling the trigger, you should be using the sights.
     
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