Fauci: new cases could reach 100,000 per day

Question;

On January 1st, were Taiwan’s CDC directors.....alarmists and/or proactivists?

 

Answers;

1. Back then, and from a Western nation point of view, and/or compared to Trump’s optimistic responses, ALARMISTS!

2. They were also PROACTIVISTS.

Note; Within days after Taiwan’s CDC put the country on alert, retail store face masks were disappearing faster than Monika Lewinsky’s lip gloss.

 

I know you are struggling with this but once again and for the last time I might add,
“I have always have been a herd guy”. I don't give a flying finger about the Swedes. As for projections, since they have been so accurate to date, I predict everyone on planet earth will at some point in time come into contact with someone or something that has been exp[osed to the Chinese virus. Now, that prediction is as accurate as anything I have seen since we were handed his gift from the Chinese.

 

1. Either he says what he is told to say (and not say) OR
2. He loses his job, and probably reputation.

Most people need an income unless they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. He would just be dismissed as a "crazy old guy" if he went off script. I would have done it in my younger days. There is no way I'd jeopardize my job now with a family to support.

 

"We don't know" is another way of saying "Let's do nothing", let the chips fall where they may. It is absolutely not true, however, that we don't know. While we cannot predict the exact number of new daily cases 2 weeks from now, the likelihood that it will be greater than today's number is almost one. This is not like a random walk like the stock market, which we cannot predict. The viral load is out there in the community. It is not all of a sudden going to disappear. In fact, it takes 2-4 weeks from changes in policy/behavior until the desired effects on viral load are apparent. The large number of cases we see now in Florida/Texas are a direct consequence of a change in behavior 2-4 weeks ago, i.e. reopening and dismissing the threat of the virus. The Florida/Texas governors are learning this presently the hard way. Their citizens will pay the price.

 

well said. Those with political agenda act as if the virus can be contained; it cannot. Also, it is not as deadly as projected when you consider the large amount of people who have been exposed, but never tested.

 

Still blaming law abiding citizens and not the protesters(I mean in Houston, the cat is out of the bag at this point.) Before the protests, we had a plan. That plan was conveyed on this forum and in general in the public. We were in control until the protests broke out.

So it's not the blame of the governors, or the law abiding citizens. The blame strictly lies on the protesters. The rioters harmed our way of life, profoundly in more ways than one.

 

He's being dismissed as that right now, precisely because he's not honest. I pointed out that lack of honesty and no one here has been able to justify it(because it's not justifiable.) Be humble, acknowledge you don't know anything and what you do know, share that.

 

I never said anything about protesters. But, yes, I think that mass protests in the times of a pandemic are a stupid idea. It is also a stupid idea to open up bars and have young, careless socialites congregate in high density and spread the virus. It is also a stupid idea to hold indoor campaign rallies while portraying to people that wearing masks is for sissies. I am consistent in my views. Can you be?

 

I mean, you have to realize that the protests/bars opening conflate(as Lone star said). Imagine a world where the bars opened, but there were no protests. Some people may have been intimate with each other, but I doubt the rise in cases would have been as much.

The bars in of themselves, is not the vector of the disease. It's the people(as you yourself said.) Meanwhile, you're probably right that not wearing a mask in the rallies is stupid. But I think it's safe to say the 6,000 people in the Tulsa rally were safer than the 40,000+ people literally standing shoulder to shoulder screaming.

 

What are you talking about?
Not only has it been contained in numerous places
And 130,000 dead says yea... it’s friggin deadly

 

If it were the protests then Milwaukee, NYC, Philly and a bunch of other places would be exploding.

they’re not

 

In graduate school, a professor was talking about the ethical dilemma of knowing a plane he was piloting was about to crash. I, naively, asked

MJ: "Why can't he just be honest?"
Professor: "Would you rather him to say 'We're all about to die.' or try to reassure the crew and passengers?

With closer consideration, I understand why the pilot would lie. So, do you want to hear the plane is going down or have some sense of stability as the whole world grapples with a pandemic and economic uncertainty?

 

NYC is exploding(+740 today.)

California has yet another +1,500 day. Wisconsin had a +540.

It's time people accept responsibility for their own actions, they went out, hollared at their lungs and got everyone else sick.

 

According to WorldOMeter, we’ve now surpassed 50K, and this morning, I asked myself if the Southern State’s/America’s Covid spike would plateaued at mid 45K, and then, slope downward.

 

If he said that 40,000 is our new norm you would today complain that he is wrong as today the number of cases is 51,000, 10,000 rise in 1 day

 

Ah, but then we get to what's called a margin of error. If we give 10,000 a number, let's say 5%. A margin of error of 5 is acceptable, though not necessarily ideal. The point of projections, is wanting to get as close as you can to being as reliable as you can.'

Essentially 40-50,000 is where we're at right now. And it would appear that range is our new norm. Of course, it's wholly possible for it to climb. But as of right now, the cases in the past week have settled to within that 45,000 area.

 

When you give a prediction you don't quote a figure of where you are now! There will be 55000 cases per day within a few days unless number of tests is reduced.

 

Cuomo was honest and forthright and as dire as what he was saying was...people felt assured and empowered.

Trump obfuscates and chaotically lies...and people are confused and angry and do stupid stuff...

You do the math

 

NYC is NOT exploding. In fact it is remaining steady

 

Quote; I’ve always been a herd guy

Question; Who created you?..... Smallpox Case Fatality Rate; approx. 30%

 

Most importantly, Cuomo didn't tell people it would magically go away. He told people that covid is serious, not to be taken lightly.

 

The United State's issues with covid are clearly because of poor leadership at the top of our Government. When our POTUS treats this as a non issue and a liberal hoax to make him look bad, we were doomed to fail the moment he told us it would magically go away in April.

I am simply amazed at how idiotic my fellow Americans act by simply putting on a mask. That has to be the easiest thing in the whole world to do, and yet you see anti mask wearers cry that their freedoms and liberties are being stripped away from them.

****ing pathetic, and so terribly disappointing to see my Country fail so badly on the World stage.

 

Fauci? Oh you mean the guy that admitted he lied about mask not doing any good in the beginning of this covid thing. Is he lying now for some reason? Who knows.

 

Foolish behavior like the shoulder to shoulder protest and riots and looting? I agree.