I Had 3 Beds Open But 10 Calls From People Who Would Likely Die

Brilliant, adds a lot to the discussion, thanks.

 

Is there proof of this or just another NY Times story full of allegations from anonymous sources. You guys would have more credibility if you just admitted you're butthurt because Trump beat the Hag.

 

I asked you
Compared to who else? What should have been done different that was known AT THE TIME?

 

If I thought that then why would I asked the question compared to who which you and Fresh avoided?

 

He opposed the travel ban has he announced different?

 

We had many examples to follow, if we cared to. Many countries that were affected before us. But Trump chose to go his own way. Now, those other countries are basically back to normal life, and we are in a worse position than when it all began...with no glimmer of hope for things to get better. States are begging for testing kits. PPE still isn't readily/widely available.

Personal responsibility is a fine thing - but when leaders are not showing how to properly exercise that personal responsibility, there are people who will refuse to do 'the right thing'.

We don't need to blame China, do we? Trump says he did all the right things in that aspect - he shut it down. So how can you still beat the China drum on one hand but also praise Trump for shutting down their access to the US? You can't have it both ways...

 

Id you look at the pictures several of the protestors aren't wearing masks. Delude yourself all you want. It's your right to put your blinders on. Screw what Anita Kurian, assistant director of San Antonio Metropolitan Health says. You know more than she does, right? I guess one actually can't fix stupid and it's stupid to protest and totally ignore social distancing. It must be the BLM signs and t-shirts that give people immunity to COVID. You stick with that crap in your little fantasy world.


https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/l...e-Floyd-protests-planned-for-San-15313803.php


https://www.expressnews.com/news/lo...own-for-unarmed-African-American-15306053.php


https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/l...st-in-response-to-George-Floyd-s-15308051.php

 

I look at Trump's 'presence' with respect to the virus now. In the beginning, it was an opportunity for him to hold daily televised rallies. Look at me. Look at what I'm doing. See how great I am. Now - when things have ratcheted back up to dangerous levels, he is no where to be seen. He makes a one line comment about how he will defeat this virus at his rallies, and then moves on. He is in full campaign mode during a pandemic. He wants no part of it. It's hard work - and that just doesn't appeal.

 

In his mind, it is no longer his concern. He put in his time, early on. Right now, its all about the campaign - let other people worry about the virus.

 

I guess we could call all these Presidents murderers with the logic of the Left these days.

Obama slaughtered 12,469 with swine flu

Bush slaughtered 774 with SARS flu

Johnson slaughtered about 100,00 with Hong Kong flu

Eisenhower slaughtered 69,800 with Asian flu

Wilson slaughtered 675,000 with Spanish flu


https://www.news4jax.com/health/202...ompare-to-sars-swine-flu-and-other-pandemics/

Error: Logic.exe not found. Running: Emotion.exe

 

First off, did you just reference me as "hey fat?" I am going to assume that was a misspelling or some term of endearment where you come from.

But yes, I absolutely think Biden and the Democrats would have done a better job. A study found that democrats, across the board, were much earlier in devoting at least some of their warnings about covid-19 than republicans. Another study found that social distancing, if implemented even one week sooner, would have saved ~36,000 lives. So even if the only thing that they did was the same steps as trump, but did them earlier, the response would have been better.

But they did more than merely messaging and recommending that we listen to experts. Democratic Senator Coons noted in early March than the Trump administration would not make a single request for emergency funding on Covid-19. And when they did make the request, weeks later, the Democrats immediately pushed for and successfully obtained ~7x as much funding. The trump admin would go on to request another several hundreds of billions in funding.

And Biden could absolutely do better than trump to limit the spread now because Biden is the one actually leading by example to wear a mask, Biden is the one leading by example and refusing to hold large in door rallies, and Biden is the one leading by example by refusing to outright contradict recognized global health experts like Trump did with Dr. Fauci just yesterday. Hell, even reversing trump's decision to leave the WHO would help by re-connectimg our response to experts and resources from around the world. And for anyone who wants to make Biden's mental acuity an issue on the response to this virus, you'd better prepare to defend trump's suggestions that inkecting disinfectants is something worthy of consideration as a treatment for covid-19.

And I get that you think trump's partial travel restriction from china was a magic panacea (given the current numbers it obviously wasnt) or that criticism by some democrats - not Biden btw - of that policy somehow made his policy better or their alternatives non-existent (it doesnt), but the truth is that the partial travel restriction - at best - bought the country a small amount of time to respond.

And so what did trump (and his administration) do during the month of March? He lied about the virus, he downplayed the threat of the virus, he touted the benefits of the virus, he contradicted health experts, he refused to ramp up testing, he refused to admit infected Americans on cruise ships into the country, and he directly placed healthcare workers in a dangerous position without proper equipment or testing and then flew them home on commercial flights.

This **** ain't funny to me either. I made a thread on trump saying this virus "would disappear like a miracle" back in late March. From that point onward, i studied, tracked, and actively prepared my family for this virus. And before you accuse me of not acting before trump, remember that my job is not president of the United States. Trump's job is to protect Americans and he is a failure at that job for many reasons, but especially because of his response to this pandemic.

Joe Biden will absolutely do a much better job. Even in regards to those protesters (which multiple pieces of research have found no link between them and the recent spikes, btw), Joe Biden's empathy and willingness to actually engage with and listen to the protesters would go a long way towards reducing their size and encouraging their willingness to protest safely as opposed to trump who demanded we protect confederate statutes, launched tear gas and flashbangs, and repeatedly demanded increased military and police aggression in response to undeniable examples of police brutality.

P.S. I have confidence in my ability to back up and provide a citation for any referenced study or claim from this post, so if you are curious, just let me know.

 

The truth stings, huh?

 

Yes.

 

So, by your logic, Trump is the 3rd most lethal - so far - president to the American people.

 

What brilliant leadership move did Trump make happen to help our Country get through this pandemic?

 

So you can't find anything where he stated letting in tons of people from other countries as a way to stem this pandemic.

Color me shocked.

 

No by the logic emotional left he is. I have some common sense.

 

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!

So you "delude yourself" with a tiny handful of EXCEPTIONS when it is glaringly OBVIOUS from your own images that the MAJORITY are wearing masks?

Sad!

 

The only person that I have seen accuse Trump of murder because of the deaths by covid-19 is you.

 

Already posted earlier in the thread. But nothing I post, even if it was a signed confession, would be believed by you.

Also, I'm glad Trump won. Hillary sucked and Trump threw away the curtain that the Reps worst tendencies used to hide behind. It's nice to see them at their worst laid bare.

 

These are GOP-E Globalists... you know... like the DNC-E Globalists.

Big money players who are using BLM, ANTIFA and other Socialist groups like rented mules.
Biden will be tone deaf to the Far Left after the election and Blacks will be ignored for the next 40 months until a time when they can be USED to stuff ballots once again.

 

It sure as hell wouldn't be Biden and whoever has his hand up his butt controlling him.

 

Did Kushner commit a crime of jacking supplies and sell them for premium dollars? Perhaps someone who knows what they are talking about can answer?

 

This is an (take no responsibility) comment. Yes, it came from China, we all know that.... Should we blame them for the horrible response ? NO ! Trump completely blew it because this has been his response to most things thru his life that are outside his comfort zone. "Ignore those people, they will come around sooner or later) that in a real estate deal...
Or run up debt, then file bankrupt and sell off the assets. It works in real estate...!! Brilliant and like his niece says, lives by the rule of Cheating is OK... So does the likes of Roger Stone... He admitted it... "As long as i win, that is all that matters"

In this post so it isnt an INFRACTION... I seem to be watched closely now... Trump is Not my Opponent... And Cheating, filing bankrupt, and admitting that it is an OK thing to do, Trump and Stone both have said it... It isn't me making up some angle nor calling them cheaters. I am quoting them... I hope that isnt an Infraction...

On that note, over and over again Forums look to ban those that have an Opposite Opinion. Making them NOT really Forum's but a place to justify their Opinions. I hope this one doesn't turn out to be so, especially so close to the election.

Zero hedge is now banning anyone that is NOT Pro Trump... Most people in the middle just want a better HONEST country with Honest reporting. We are now only getting 70% of that... It is never personal...

Trump, Roy Cohen, the whole bunch, do it and did it. With a Virus you cant ignore it, or wish it away.... All one has to do is look at the countrys that found out the same time as us. South Korea is the Perfect example. They all have it under control, only here is it a complete mess. How can anyone try to even Justify

 

What is this worst you speak of? Before the Hunan Virus hit this country was on a roll. The economy was the strongest it has been since before Bush and we had changed the way our trading partners saw us, no longer the patsies for globalization we had become. The only thing Trump did was color outside the lines and mess up the big picture globalists and socialists had been painting for decades. He is the first political fresh air Washington has seen since the greatest generation ran things but DC denizens are so used to **** in the air they can't function without it.