Man dies after being shot by Atlanta police at Wendy’s drive-thru

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  1. notme

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    You say that while I proved racism is profoundly there on the subject of being stopped when driving around, and on drugs.

    Since you're coming up with who gets arrested over rape....
    Do note the most violent group of people around are cops.
    40% of police officer families experience domestic violence.
    That is 4 times higher than the national average.
    1 in 10 cops admitted in a nice research that they beat up their families they love.
    http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2013/police-domestic-abuse/index.html
    Do note... those cops walk the streets and beat up the people who they don't love.

    Enter racism and there you go. Not just "a few bad apples".

    I proved my point with national statistics of +100 million cases.
     
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    I gave you a specific example of one I knew of (see the black that didn't know where courtroom IX was) and you assume.

    When Zig Zag Zell started appointing judges (how do I know this?), for the first time since the Royal Governor, it was to fix that supposed racial disparity. Oh, look, he switched Parties after that. Here's the problem with such a process of appointment of judges vs the community voting for those judges over them--considering impeachment exists, and higher courts exist--if the community (which might just be black, or concerned about disparate sentencing) doesn't vote for the judges, what is to keep Governor Madame Defarge (and her knitting circle) from appointing one they hate?

    If I am forbidden to say what I think a Party is, in a so-called "Political Forum," so you cannot argue against my belief (whether I really have it or not), the Party or Faction is then immune from challenge; that is how you get Governor Madame Defarge (and her knitting circle) appointing a judge over a black community that otherwise might be able to vote for their judges over them.

    "All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.

    However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion."
    https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=15&page=transcript

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/legleitner-lloyd-florida-race-sentence/
     
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    You definitely sound white or you are a ..........nevermind.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, it's not nazi news anymore, got it.

    Things change so fast. Nazi, not nazi. I cant keep up with what you kids are calling everyone these days.
     
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    I'm arguing the law the actions of the District Attorney you have nothing.
     
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    No, it's because of the violent criminality of young black men. You remind me of the NYPD being criticized for handing out more speeding tickets to blacks than whites but they pointed out that the proportion of speeding tickets was exactly the same as those awarded by their speed cameras. Police go where the crime is, police go where the violence is, the idiot stockbroker snorting coke or hillbilly on meth is not blasting people on the streets of Chicago with a submachinegun. The African American crack addict is
     
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    Those are the numbers of people who they caught. Those numbers are about the same of people caught who do or sell drugs. While I just proved that there is no correlation what so ever between the % of any ethnicity caught and the % of any ethnicity who does something. Same with people who are stopped and searched while driving. That there is no correlation what so ever means that the police force is overwhelmingly racist.

    It seems like you think that everybody gets caught when doing something wrong. Or assume that the % of criminals of white and black people who get caught is the same. It's not. That's my point. That's my point that the cops are indeed overwhelmingly racist. I proved that point.
     
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    Even you sourced
    "The Sentencing Project, a non-profit organization that researches and lobbies for fairness in the American criminal justice system, summarized the phenomenon in a 2015 study, writing that “Once arrested, people of color are also likely to be charged more harshly than whites; once charged, they are more likely to be convicted; and once convicted, they are more likely to face stiff sentences –- all after accounting for relevant legal differences such as crime severity and criminal history.”"

    And last source also says who it works in 1 example. The difference in sentences between black (2 times 13 years) and white (not even 2 years) based on an opinion of... I think that white dude is remorseful and so the white dude gets not even 8% of the sentence of the black dude.

    Case closed. Judges are overwhelmingly racist as well.
     
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    This is what people get when sticking too long to racist far right wing fake news.
     
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    I got cops shooting at each other with non lethal weapons in a vid, laughing how it all plays out.
     
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    Data denial is a sure fire method of ensuring that significant problems are never fixed. Assertions are not evidence but that is all you have provided (other than a denial of federally collected crime data).

    What I know is that in white conservative middle class areas, crime is basically non-existent. Here you are ragging on "racist cops" in areas controlled by Democrats from the top down. If you have a problem with policing in Democrat cities take it up with your politicians. The dysfunction in your area is a you problem not a me problem. You pick your politicians, I do not.
     
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    I still got 2 sourced proving cops are overwhelmingly racist.

    The NYPD reminds me how they got 5 ethnic minorities convicted over a rape of a white women in central park against all the evidence that they weren't the right people, and in fact it was done by just 1 person who matched the DNA and everything. I also point at that the NYPD has a exceptionally racist past with racist profiling, and later had to be ordered by a judge that their stop and frisk program was yet an other new way of racist behavior and so illegal.
     
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    Good morning america?
     
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    Even the traffic cameras are racist? Dammit man. Can't catch a break.
     
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    That is not sourcing the "Sentencing Project," to prove a point, they are quoting them because that is the claim.

    An assistant district attorney (in the city that just had the little black girl killed, which got the Covid infected mayor off her "liberal" Democrat black ass), back when it was the murder capital (beating out Detroit, DC, and Chicago...), told our class that previous murderers would come in with a **** eating grin and say, "Hi, I'm back," and for murder, murder of a black, and there is no fracking statistic for that.

    It's like they are killing cockroaches and not humans in the hood, because it was manslaughter and not first degree to shoot a black woman in the back of the head execution style. So you statistic the black gets manslaughter in the hood for shooting a woman in the back of the head up against a chain link fence, gets out 18 months later and six months after that rapes a black woman, but if they had gone 20 miles south to commit their crime they would have gotten life or death, and that black woman would never have been raped.

    Strict sentencing guidelines, and actual enforcement, would mean every single looter...would be in an orange jump suit right now in population, they are NOT because of whining about the po black criminal that isn't even the slightest bit remorseful.

    No racist judge killed that little girl, or had shootings all over the hood, but you can pretty much bet a "liberal" Democrat judge, and a "liberal" Democrat district attorney, let that overwhelmingly criminal person out with many slaps on the wrist before they graduated to random murder of little girls.

    A Judge basically said, "your mistake was turning left instead of right," after a carjacker going south turned left getting off Interstate 85. In his hood he would have gotten a slap, in ours he got prison.

    If you want to stop the murders in your hood, stop whining, shovel your crap off the streets.
     
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    In a very controlled environment. Sorry the law is the law and the DA charged two persons just 6 days prior with using a lethal weapon when they used a TASER. Give it up you don't have anything to stand on here.
     
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    Where? Police deal more with black suspects because they go more where the violence is. People who say more black people are convicted due to the racial prejudice of the judicial system are just kidding themselves, otherwise black people wouldn't be disproportionately the victims of violence crime as well as the suspects.

    We'd similar claims in the UK until the Met Police commissioner pointed out that robbery victims weren't lying about the race of their robbers?
     
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    No they're not, it's the potential for violence which forces the issue
     
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    Like what?
     
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    Yes, because they knew it was a Taser and not a real gun and because they knew the other cops weren't going to take their gun and kill them whilst they're incapacitated.
     
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    You're denying the data in who uses and sells drugs, and who gets tossed in jail over it. The difference is utterly massive. Same thing with data of who gets pulled over for a stop and search and who has gets busted with something illegal like that. I have yet to see who does the most domestic violence and who gets tossed in jail over it.

    And I emphasize that I already shown an utterly massive difference between who does the crime and who gets mostly tossed in jail over it. That clearly shows that the predominantly white police force is rather racist.
     
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    picking the wrong side and attempt to remain on the wrong side of history in the making....
     
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    I agree that good morning america is biased, but honestly most people are aware of this when they tune in. So just because I watch them doesnt mean I'm picking a side, it's just that I just think they are slightly better than the today show.
     
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    I already sourced about the same thing with numbers of the FBI.
    You're just being a poor sport with disputing data because you had some alleged personal experience.

    Again... You clearly never bothers to look this up if racism is widespread under judges. You made a small attempt and stumbled on a institute who says it is indeed like that. And now you are cowardly running away from it.
     
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    You are missing the obvious, but we all know that I suspect that you've been made aware and know the truth but refuse it either consciously or subconsciously. If you could take those blinders of hate off even just for a day, it would be so enlightening for you.

    But again, I suspect that you've been enlightened many times before and just ignore the obvious.

    I'm so sorry you feel this way but its too frustrating and pointless to even bother with simple discussion anymore, so you can just keep hating I guess.
     

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