Manufacturing Jobs Are Never Coming Back

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  1. kazenatsu

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    And Bush Jr.'s brain was being poisoned everyday from reading editorials in The Economist.

    This was several years after Clinton, but (just to refresh memories) the theory back then was that there were many jobs "Americans did not want to do", and by outsourcing those jobs to poorer countries it would free Americans to focus on cleaner white collar jobs, and the country just had to better educate its population so everyone could move up, or so the idea went.
    This was all leading up to the financial bubble before 2006.
     
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    The wall street boys and MNCs just want cheap labor. So they moved our manufacturing and even service work off shore. That should be against the law. They shouldn't have access to our markets. We own the market not MNCs and wall street.
     
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    How would it be possible to bring back manufacturing when big box bulk is shoveling in products made in other countries? It is almost impossible to find anything made in America. I try, but I know so many people that would rather have lower prices than national solidarity.
     
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    I didn't know any of those people who wanted to lose their factory jobs.

    What a used car salesman Clinton was!
     
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    It may not be that so many posters on the left hate all of America, only the anything to do with Trump part.
    As for the non-American foreigners, the vast majority especially most Canadians like Americans and understand we are partners, the majority of the rest of the negative nellies are always bitter and I attribute that to nothing more than pure jealousy. Their identities are obvious.

    Silly OP's like this one are usually posted with the intent of venting his/her/alphabets displeasure with the events of, who knows, maybe the last half hour as it is hard to figure out if meds were involved.

    What I find ironic is President Trump is the only president in a decade that is working to bring jobs back to America and even by the graph posted by another individual shows a slow upward trend.

    Basing anything on an outbreak of the Chinese virus is just plain stupid but it is an election year.
     
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    Kool-Aid drinkers are skewed

    Yet Trump is ok with Russian Bounties on our Military
     
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    Hopefully, you thought about what you posted after you hit post reply. Countries have been employing mercenaries for centuries and America is no exception and if this was a surprise to you, maybe some research would be in order.
     
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    Commander Bonespurs?
     
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    Is that why the UE-6 is 13.5%
     
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    You are arguing pro and con and losing both sides.
     
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    We've constantly been told that manufacturing jobs are special in this regard . . . for some reason. Although manufacturing jobs are climbing (and were climbing before Trump took office), the market still isn't that great. But that has more to do with technology than it does with offshoring or importing. US manufacturing output has been great. We are just able to secure that output with less labor input. Because technology.
     
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    Job growth has been on the same upward trend (at least until COVID) for the past several years, going back to ~2010. The growth didn't start "the last four years." The trend already existed by then. The "Trump economic miracle" is a religious myth meant to dupe those who either can't read a graph or refuse to consult one.

    And before you get upset: I'm not crediting Obama either. The fact that the same trend has continued across both administrations is a pretty good indication to me that neither deserve credit for it. As I've said before: Obama supporters confuse correlation for causation. Trump supporters can't even get the correlation part right.
     
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    Michigan is still under lockdown and we now face $500 fines for not wearing masks, and yet in a single half-mile of businesses today, I saw five HELP WANTED signs, including the hourly $11 wage. Restaurants are in desperate trouble and Grubhub is advertising that fact, which is commercially good sense for them but common sense for us. Our favorite places will go under if we listen to the Gretchen Whitmers.
     
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    And what "ilk" do you descend from? Why should you continue abusing others without getting it hurled back at you by your undeserving victims?
     
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    Not terribly O/T here but the most famous mercenary was Mad Mike Hoare, who died this week at age 100. He was the real life leader of The Wild Geese, portrayed in the Richard Burton and Roger Moore action thriller.

    Eric Prince's outfit Blackwater morphed into something else but it still around, as are other suppliers of mercenary talent. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mercenary+soldier+recruiting
     
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    I am not upset at all and oddly enough I agree. The trend started with Obama as we dragged ourselves out of the recession of 2008-2009 and it was a natural increase based on job growth as the recession ended and jobs became more plentiful.

    That said, in all eight years, I never heard Obama put any emphasis on ridding ourselves of NAFTA which by all accounts net cost the US millions and millions of lost jobs. I can't remember Obama ever giving a speech, let alone make it a plank in his platform, to give priority to companies that made their products in the USA. I don't think Obama ever stressed the fact he was placing tariffs on companies that were taking advantage of weak US manufacturing laws. I don't think Obama ever gave a speech to the world declaring the US is seeking a better balance of trade with all countries.
    I am sure if you piddle around on the internet you will find something Obama said most likely in front of a bunch of union leaders that will partially refute what aI said but you have to admit Trump, for the most part, took the total opposite approach to bring jobs back to America in spite of a congress (all 3-1/2 years) that basically did nothing to help and all of that was sadly for political purposes on both the republican and democrat side.
    Overall Trump, like him or hate him, has worked to increase jobs in the US manufacturing sector. He has put the world on notice that we will no longer be taken advantage of with respect to trade. He has worked to broaden our supply chain so we are not so dependent on one supplier. All of these things mane sense to anybody who has a working brain cell and a dog in the fight.
    With a little cooperation, a little massaging and ass-kissing from the democrats, Trump could have made a great Democrat president.
     
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    How is it, with four years of a Trump administration and big campaign promises of bringing manufacturing back, you are holding liberals responsible for manufacturers leaving the country?
     
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    Offshoring never was the problem with jobs. It's these guys.
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    What ever happened to that HUUUGGGEEE Foxconn manufacturing plant that Dirty Donald and Scott Walker CLAIMED was going to hire 13,000 employees in Wisconsin??????? More bullshit!!!
     
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    By that logic there are no poor doing labor in MNC factories. I call BS. Labor was shipped to China not robots.
     
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    Because the DP helped instead of fighting the GOP.
     
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    3 million jobs lost.
    No increase in import dollars.
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    Look at that.
    200 billion more in exports with half a million fewer workers.
     

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