Harris and VP Biden call for mandatory face masks

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  1. mdrobster

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    If you were in the Air Force as you say, then your dismissal of science is questionable. Science is most certainly front and center when it comes to warfare, science is front and center when it comes to finance, medicine, and even predicting voter trends !!!!!
     
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    Mandatory face masks is just the tip of the iceberg. They want to be dictators!
     
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    Next thing you know, restaurants will want us to wear shoes and shirts! Madness!!!!
     
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    what is the issue with a mask? If i go to the shops I will put mine on - If I'm walking alone I don't bother... sheesh - people love to complain .... I also put my seatbelt on in a car, wear pants and put any rubbish in bins
     
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    Problem is that statistical data is not being drawn uniformly. Some US states count presumed deaths while others count only confirmed cases. Same deal here with the countries in Europe.
     
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    There are opinions on both ends of the issue. The viability of masks varies with the type of mask. Nothing is perfect but masks, social distancing, washing hands, and avoiding overcrowded conditions all help as a package. It is like a team. The pitcher by himself alone cannot win a game.
     
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    Obviously you don't watch Fox so you say what others tell you to say.
     
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    Are you also campaigning against seatbelts? Speed limits? Food certification? Why should Rushbo get to buy as much oxy as he wants, when you are denied, right?

    The idea of getting all worked up over the "outrage" of wearing masks to slow COVID and move toward what other nations have achieved hits me as STUPID, lethal and a direct assault on America and our economy as well as our education.
     
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    I have no problem with a business implementing and enforcing a mask mandate policy (as one still has the choice to shop elsewhere or via other methods), but I do have a problem with the State or Counties issuing such a mandate, as it is unconstitutional and is a violation of my right to make my own health care decisions. -- This whole mask wearing BS is just government's way of mandating control over the populace (potentially even microchips and the like). It is all linked to the future evil one-world government system (Agenda 2030).

    I'm not even concerned about Biden... I'm much more concerned about Harris, who will actually be running the country after Biden gets deemed "mentally incapable"... This is the DNC's way of sneaking her in as President without her actually getting elected (since she is the most rabid leftist of them all, and is otherwise unelectable on a national stage).

    I forsee bad things (Communism, for starters) coming for America in the next few years, ESPECIALLY if the Harris/Biden ticket wins...
     
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    Listening to science is not about "what others tell you to say". It's about being informed by the concrete evidence we have developed through a superior system of medical science both here in the US and around the world.

    What FOX says is clearly bassed on nothing - or maybe flaming partisan politics when they are lucky.
     
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    It's not about you and I don't see how a mask mandate during a communicable health crisis as some government plot to make your health care decisions or a "government control" over the populace. As I said I don't see it as a federal issue but a state a local issue depending on the particular situations locally. Personally I wear one in public enclosed places and prefer to see everyone doing so.
     
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    What pandemic? A fraction of a fraction of a percent (regarding deaths) is not a pandemic...

    Why are healthy people being mandated to wear them then?

    Paradox. Either the person is sick or they aren't... A person who is not sick cannot spread the virus...

    Fear mongering.

    The virus still spreads regardless. Distance is irrelevant; it is still in the air.

    Virtue signaling.
     
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    Fox says the same things you do. Apparently you think I'm incapable of individual thought.
     
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    Some can stop particulates better than others, but the masks being worn by the masses do not stop viruses.

    Do not work.

    Does not work. This is an airborne virus; it is in the air.

    ... makes for good hygiene... No need to excessively wash them or to use sanitizer though...

    Depends, but generally helps a tad.

    A team of players with little/no skill cannot win a game either... That's what you're putting out onto the field.
     
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    My stance is not going to change on this. Its a very large country from sea to shining seas and it includes Islands like Hawaii, and Puerto Rico and Guam, far off shore, and it includes this 660,000 square miles of Alaska that is completely unattached from the 49 other states. They are getting this virus at different times, with disparate patterns of infection hittting urban, rural and suburban populations at different times. I want states in the drivers seat on when to require masks and where, when to open up businesses, under what circumstances and where.

    I also want these same states to decide whether, and how to structure a tort liability protection bill, and which businesses they want to target with it. they were be figuring out who will do the enforcing and they will be figuring out how to write a liability protection bill that fits the needs of the state.

    Just because it is a problem that attacks the whole nation, does not mean it attacks it all in the same way, at the same time.
     
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    So, you are totally opposed to seat belts, speed limits, food quality restrictions, construction codes, water quality standards, drug certification requirements, drug purchasing restrictions, etc., etc., etc?

    Outside of government, do you believe you have ANY obligation to care about the lives of those around you? Or, are you satisfied with a total FU attitude to all others?
     
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    Mandating something that is not known to work or not is dictatorship. Are you goose stepping yet?
     
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    We've known that masks work for over 100 years.

    LMAO.

    Science haters..... they do love hats.
     
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    You're right... It's about one's right to make their own health care decisions... That right belongs to the individual, not to government.

    There is no "health crisis". A fraction of a fraction of a percent of people dying is not a "crisis"... It is not even a "situation"...

    If you feel that wearing one is doing you good, then by all means feel free to do so. I won't force you to remove it. Just don't force me to put it on, otherwise I'll be all for forcing you to remove yours, as that sort of thing works both ways...

    Your preference that people wear them is irrelevant, as is my preference that people don't wear them. The meat of the issue is that each individual's rights/freedoms/liberties are being slowly eroded away, and this is just one more thing to add to the list...
     
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    So Covid 19 has been around for over 100 years?
     
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    Stupid Biden doesn't know how to wear a mask properly.....

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    OK, so US and world medical science just isn't good enough for you!!!

    You are saying that YOUR view of masks is so much better than that of the entire medical world that you are justified in considering that massive collection of people who are actually experts to be promoting what you call dictatorship - that you are so much smarter that you can accuse all of medical science to be totally corrupt.

    I really do not know what to say to people like you. Obviously, you're an anarchist. Obviously, you have zero respect for science. And, your self pride extends to feeling no concern about the wellbeing of Americans - healthwise, education wise or economically.

    What could possibly be an argument of interest to someone so far above the rest of us?

    I note that you did not answer my question concerning all the other cases where safety assessmnts have been made by experts in medicine and other disciplines - causing regulations on numerous activities.
     
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    Viruses have been know to science for that long.

    Without vaccines, the tools mankind has had for fighting this type of communicable disease include social distancing and wearing masks.

    It's called public health.

    And, YOU pretend you know more than medical science when you didn't even know THAT???
     
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    Yes, this is the standard GOP argument.

    We can expect nothing but piles and piles of bald faced lies - just like this one that YOU spread.
     
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