North Carolina man shot and killed 5-year-old neighbor while he was playing in his yard, police say

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  1. RP12

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    Politics.
     
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    Probably not but im not an medical expert with expertise on high levels of Meth.
     
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    Yea that's always the case, never has anything to do with the cop's actions.
     
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    Was there a warrant yes or no?
    Was there shots fired on both sides.. Yes or no?
     
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    If that is the case, then you can't say a knee on his neck didn't kill him either.
     
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    Not really considering he was having a panic attack brought on by the cop pulling a gun on him.
     
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    I never claimed either way.. Just said Baden by his own words did not have all the information.... I already linked to it...
     
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    Was the officer fired? Yes or no? You don't get fired for doing your job.
     
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    Your evidence of this instead of Meth and Fentanyl?
     
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    You cant answer simple on topic questions can you?
     
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    Experience with panic attacks, difficulty breathing, agitation, history of anxiety, triggering event of gun (would cause a panic attack in a lot of people without a history of panic attacks), previously being shot, etc.
     
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    Do you have evidence of panic attacks during his previous arrests?
    Strange enough you are describing Meth.
     
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    Meth can cause difficulty breathing, but wouldn't mimick all of the other symptoms. Now, even if we pretend that the meth could trigger a panic attack, that would still be a panic attack.
     
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    To put it simply you are wrong. See previous link
     
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    Maybe you should look up panic attacks and compare symptoms. Or not. You seem to have some bias towards a diagnosis of everything brought on by meth, which no doctor agrees with.
     
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    Why dont you.... If you want to claim Meth had nothing to do with it you are ignoring science but anything to make this guy seem more of a victim...
    That being said i have never approved of the restraint aka knee in neck.
     
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    The medical professionals found that it was a homicide caused by the police restraints based on science.

    And I think we can all agree that Chauvin was 100% in the wrong. I hope they took a blood sample from him as he looked like he was on something.
     
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    But the report released later Monday by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office said Floyd died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression." The manner of death was ruled homicide, but the office noted that "is not a legal determination of culpability or intent." A preliminary autopsy report cited earlier by prosecutors said the county medical examiner's review "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."


    Obviously the neck restraint did not help.
     
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    You really should not cite the prosecuors statement before the autopsy report. It doesn't really say anything in contrast to the private or official autopsies. Traumatic asphyxia and strangulation weren't even suspected. You may as well say there were no signs of Ebola.
     
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    I don't think "dozens of medical professionals" have weighed in on the autopsy and accompanying lab reports. But that's all besides the point anyway, since what I asked was, "So if it does turn out that he died from an overdose, should charges be dropped?"

    Well?
     
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    Yes, they should. Or reduced. He was caught in the act of theft by counterfeit money, and the police didn't make him abuse meth.

    He's a real hero to the left, though. I get that. But maybe the cop should be charged with failing to render aid instead of murder. Clearly this degenerate was already high.
     
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    And I said "sure". But you would have to prove the knee on the neck wasn't a cause. Regardless that should be assault.
     
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    How many black people have to be killed by the cops before it's a problem for you? Is it the same as the number of white people? Just curious.

    Mark my words, if Trump is re-elected he will create his own series of scandals by continuing to be a lazy ******. Just like he has done for the last 4 years.

    Anyway, since you totally dodged my point, let me redirect. BLM and all the other groups you hate are protesting the government taking the rights of US citizens. Your post is about a likely severely mentally ill citizen taking the life of a child. I mean, who here ISN'T against that happening, but who would you protest against? The mentally ill? The government SHOULDN'T kill a single person wrongly. That's the ideal outlined by our founders. More over they shouldn't kill a single race at a higher rate than any other. If you want to dispute any of those statements, be my guest and good luck.

    And let me head off the whole "black people shouldn't resist arrest" BS. Remember Randy Weaver? How about David Koresh? They resisted arrest. Did they get what they deserved...? Because as I recall, white right wingers were pretty pissed at the government after they resisted arrest for DAYS and force was finally used...
     
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    Mental illness is much more likely...duh.
     
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    If you can rule out that the knee to the neck contributed 0%, then sure. But you can't. More over, you still can't tell me that applying force to one's neck for passing a fake 20, when you have yet to establish he knew the 20 was fake in a court of law, is necessary. Imagine if George Floyd had gotten away, which is the worst case and not necessarily a likely outcome. What would have happened? What possible nightmare would that be? Nothing. They would have caught him at home in a situation where perhaps everyone's tempers and pressures were different. This was not a master criminal, a murderer who shot children in their front yards. So I still fail to see what the point was of the force to arrest him in that moment was other than trying to prove one's case of enlarged testicles.

    Oh, and the real question is, do you believe Floyd was on drugs or do you WANT him to be because it fits your race based narrative?
     
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