Wear a freaking mask already

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  1. jay runner

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    Snot mucous krud droplets with URI novel coronavirus, influenza virus, common cold virus, and possibly other viruses mixed into the mash. Pretty much everything but snakebite venom in the pathogenic colloidal suspension.
     
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    Some colleges and universities are no longer testing for COVID-19, and thus, there is no more contact tracing. They lost the spring semester and have made the decision they're not going to lose their entire future to government. If a student wants a test the student arranges for it and makes the payment for it.

    One student I know attending classes with no sense of smell or taste really likes it that way. He's a young freshman with no other symptoms and isn't worried, just wants to get his hours fast, graduate fast, and start living his engineering dream.
     
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    Droplets that all viruses hitch a ride on. Viruses don't just fly out of your mouth on their own power like birds
     
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    The syphilis bug has a very long tail and its own locomotion but a virus gets blown around like a piece of dirt.
     
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    We are all learning as we go with this virus and even the much vaunted CDC seems to change its tune daily. I tend to error on the side of caution and wear a mask in crowds.
     
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    If it was a prion virus pandemic and everybody was asked to wear gas masks all the time I guess all humanity would die.
     
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    I had to Google that. LOL
     
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    It's going to be an asteroid or a prion virus in the end.
     
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    The term "pathogenic colloidal suspension" doesn't exist. Did you actually make it up?
     
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    So droplets are all the same size?
     
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    I don't pretend to be an expert. Study I saw convinced me mask are effective. If you saw one showing they are not feel free to expound on it.
     
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    I've been reading a lot of medical stuff lately to gain some half understanding of it.
     
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    One, due to the early advice for people not to wear masks. Two, incoherent guidelines on how to count covid-19 deaths. Three, recent changes to testing recommendations.
     
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    Thankfully. But it's not just droplets, it's aerosol too, which is why high filtration masks with unwoven fabric such as melt blown, thanks to the brownian motion of particulates smaller than 0.3 micron, can catch up to 98% of 0.1 micron particulates such as the coronavirus. Not to forget, even in aerosol, the virus travels though air in the middle of larger wet particulates (it's a wet mist, not free-floating viruses). ASTM level 3 masks also have high wetness resistance.

    These masks in all tests have shown to be pretty excellent against the coronavirus, again, provided that they are sealed around the nose and mouth, and there is no way to achieve proper seal for a surgical mask without a brace of some kind. But with a brace, even the non-ideal three rubber bands one (but much better with neoprene rubber ones), these masks will protect a lot. Never 100%, of course, but the relative risk of catching the virus by walking into an aerosol cloud will be greatly reduced.

    Even if some virus gets through, there are some who believe that inoculation with a very small viral load will actually result in asymptomatic cases that might make the person immune to worse infection in the future (almost like a vaccine - I wouldn't recommend it, but if it happens, good). So, the right kind of mask worn the right way is a win-win for the wearer, not to forget, it also protects the community.
     
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    What part confused you? Maybe I can help. I have no issue with CenterField's writing. He comes across crystal clear to me. I, too, have written professionally; mostly user manuals. Helpful ones!
     
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    Which Fauci was complicit in, right?
     
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    With huge run-on paragraphs? I think you're in the minority, if so.

    I wasn't having trouble wit the subject, just the way it was presented. I like CenterField's take on things. I want others to read them. Maybe my mistake was not using a private message. Lesson learned.
     
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    I was more referring to a supposed unknown acronym. Which one confused you, beyond ASTM?
     
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    TLTFRORT. :)
     
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    I've written two relatively obscure but nevertheless published books. I don't however claim to to be an expert in composition. That's what editors are for.:)
     
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    Yes. What's your point? In my posts, I've blamed Fauci for this, over and over.
     
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    Of course dense populations are fertile for the spread of the virus, but it's not like it can't get to the rural areas. It will probably just take longer to get there. I know of fairly rural counties in my state that are having quite impressive outbreaks. Now, if for some weird reason the virus has spared your community (there is a long list of intervening factors that might be responsible for it) then good for you. But the fact that your community got lucky doesn't mean that other communities shouldn't be prudent and vigilant. Also, do realize that the Spanish Flu in 2018-2019 came in three waves, and the second and third one were much worse than the first one. I wouldn't call victory anywhere in the world before we have a highly efficacious vaccine that is well-accepted by the population. Remember Spain for example. They went with zero, one, or two deaths per day for weeks in a row and seemed to have beaten the virus... then it started spreading again.
     
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    I did a lot of reading on baseline inflammation the last few days. You are spot on with hydration. It’s very important for maintaining a healthy immune system that is less apt to over react to infections. Thanks for bringing it up.
     
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    This student you know may very well end up with heart failure in a few years, according to the German study that found 78% of youngish people, including 67% of them having had only mild and moderate cases, with impressive (and asymptomatic, up to that point unknown) heart damage of the kind that often progresses to heart failure a few years down the road.

    Some young people have also recovered from asymptomatic or mild cases and then a week later dropped dead of a fulminating stroke. Let's hope not, but anybody who is nonchalant about this virus is playing with fire. While the bad cases are still a minority, they do happen and they steadily happen, so it is much more prudent to avoid the virus and wait for a vaccine.

    If the German study is confirmed by a large one, then, beware. This German study is frankly scary and has profoundly worried cardiologists everywhere, like I posted about (I inserted comments on the study by several leading cardiologists).
     
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    Fourth time you criticize my style. How many more times will you do it? Just curious.

    Oh, and your criticism would have been just as annoying by PM (that's the acronym for Private Message, before you scream, enraged, that I used another one).
     
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