Wear a freaking mask already

Mr. Style Police didn't know what Too Long Didn't Read (TLDR) meant, LOL.
And thanks for your kind words.
PS (Post-scriptum) - I should add for his intention that LOL is Laughing Out Loud.

 

Thanks, nice post, and you are doing the right things. Keep up with the good work.

 

Read my question again and notice the word "any"

 

While having a conversation with someone, have you ever noticed a bit of spit leave their mouth, and, on some occasions land in the cup you are holding? A mask would have stopped that happening.

 

Until you get over yourself, and your anger? I do apologize for putting it out here, but I'm not wrong about writing style.

 

I'm confused as to where all this hatred towards you is coming from. You are a welcome addition to this forum, IMO.

Sleep Monster - that's "In my opinion."

 

Well, let's put an end to this, this way: I'll put you on my Ignore list, effective now. I suggest you do the same and place me on your Ignore list, so you won't be upset at my horrible writing style.

By the way, FWIW (that's For What It's Worth) and FYI (that's For Your Information), I'm a published author of two medical textbooks and six non-fiction books. My readers don't mind my style; the books sell very well and get outstanding reviews (I'm currently writing a 3rd textbook); not to forget, I make a lot of money from them.

Unlike you, who wrote about the works of others, my books are about my own work and scientific contributions, and that's in addition to chapters in other textbooks and literally hundreds of scientific papers I've authored. Like I said, I do not need your lessons regarding my non-professional posts in a freaking anonymous Internet forum. YOU are the one who should get over yourself.

Good bye forever. Have a nice and long life. OAO (I just made this one up; that's Over And Out).

 

How’s the OP’s mask crusade going?

 

LMAO

 

Yes, protecting you. Not the one talking and spitting.

 

And this is a BAD THING?

 

I don't disagree.

 

Thanks. Some people are just jealous. Good riddance.

I really don't understand DairyAir's take on this. He/She does acknowledge that masks protect one way, from the wearer to the community... well, masks don't have a little brain inside that says "I'll filter particulates when they go from A to B but absolutely will refuse to filter particulates when they go from B to A." His own source that he quoted to substantiate his point, admits to the fact that masks protect the wearer too. His/her position on this is quite puzzling.

 

Meanwhile, the dems give him a free pass while slamming Trump for absolutely everything COVID related. There's another reason for you not to vote dems - their hypocrisy and double standards!

 

I think Trump's report card on Covid-19 is quite mixed. Some very bad moves, some very good ones.
Bad ones:
- Took too long to take the virus seriously
- His travel ban was very incomplete with too many exceptions and no rigorous quarantine of arrivals.
- Took too long to support masks
- Erratic and ambivalent stances regarding lockdowns
- Touted a medication HCQ) ahead of scientific conclusions about its risks and benefits
- Got caught with his pants down after having dismantled in 2018 some of the pandemic preparedness resources
- Kept undermining (and is still undermining) testing just so that *he* doesn't look bad

Good ones:
- The Warp Speed initiative
- Securing the entire world stock of remdesivir for Americans
- Threatening to use the Defense Production Act to get companies to make more ventilators
- Deploying navy hospital ships to hot spots
- Negotiating with 3M for more domestic production of N95s
- Did ultimately call the virus vicious, and did ultimately endorse the use of masks
- Did listen to his experts on not embracing the idiotic attempt of going for "herd immunity"

There's more but let's keep it short with 6 bad moves and 6 good moves.

 

Excellent summary. May I quote you with careless abandon throughout the forum?

 

Sure. Quote ahead.

 

The virus enters through eyes, nose, mouth.
The mask protects 2 of those if properly worn and if one's hands are clean.

I've not said they offer NO protection. But the protection is limited and if one doesn't touch their eyes, nose, mouth, or mask.

 

no.

 

OK, with that, I can agree. Thanks for clarifying your position. I either misunderstood it before, or you didn't express it very clearly because I do seem to remember that in some posts you issued the words "masks don't protect the wearer." Like you said, they do protect, WHEN properly worn (and I'd add, much better when they are the right kind of masks), and when people don't contaminate them and themselves by touching them with unclean hands.

I am absolutely for eye protection and I don't go out for errands without my medical-grade goggles and sometimes I even put a face shield on top of my goggles + mask apparatus. However I haven't advocated too strongly for eye protection (although I did mention it as a necessity in many posts) because I think it's already difficult to convince people to wear masks, let alone goggles and face shields.

It reminds me of the joke about Walmart.

Person A says, reading the newspaper: "Huh, Walmart is now requiring all customers to wear masks in store."
Person B replies: "Good luck with that. They can't even get their customers to wear pants."

 

I've stated that before. Perhaps not clearly though.

 

The big deal is the choice anyone over the age of 10 has is being violated. You would know if you had a fever, a cough, the chills, if you don’t feel it, you don’t have it. I’m tired of all this “asymptomatic”” crap making everyone paranoid. This is advocating for the equivalent of muzzling a harmless dog who hasn’t done anything. I pity the people that waste money on these things.

 

With all due respect, your second paragraph reads of that of someone turning into Don Knotts. I nearly laughed out loud when I actually saw someone with a face shield. Advocating for eye protection is just making people more paranoid in the outside world.

It’s getting to the point if you really think a face shield is necessary, you shouldn’t be leaving your house.

 

Absolutely not

 

I don't "think" a face shield (or goggle) is necessary, I "know" that it is, both from studies, and from my training as a healthcare worker (and I leave my house every day to go to the hospital where I work and where we do treat cases of COVID-19; just, I do use PPE for this professional activity, and for other activities in my life in situations where I know I'll be indoors and in the presence of less careful and maskless people).

Like I said, I have little hope that the general public will embrace this, but they would be safer if they did. Keep laughing out loud but infection via the eye HAS happened and has been documented in case reports, including, with fatal consequences.

Now, let's look at the studies. I hope that you do know how to read these statistical elements and how to read this chart, but if you don't, take my world for it: it shows a significant reduction of infection risk for those wearing eye protection:

Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext



So, that's not one, not two, not three... but freaking 13 papers showing actually quite biggish risk reduction with eye protection, all of these studies done with coronaviruses.

So, laugh out loud as much as you want but this is not a laughing matter. This is Science, and this virus is not funny. I find your attitude quite silly, actually, to be laughing out loud about this.

Look, paranoia is the fear of an imaginary, delusional, non-existing danger. This virus though, carries a danger that is VERY real and VERY concrete so this doesn't qualify as paranoia, but rather, prudence. People should gauge how much protection they need, according to their age, underlying medical condition, and severity of their exposure to the virus. People then can gauge if they go maskless (stupid and imprudent), just masked, or masked with eye protection. For example, a store clerk who needs to work all day long behind a counter in a store where the boss doesn't require people to be masked, this store clerk being 63 years old, obese, with hypertension and diabetes, yes, absolutely this store clerk should add a face shield to his mask. A 15-year-old healthy high school student probably wouldn't need it.

People should feel free to make their own mind up, but it would be good to make this decision based on sound science and sound data like what I'm providing above, rather than on a lay man's impression and sorry, misguided opinion, like yours.