So when Trump wins the popular vote on election day, but then Biden wins ...

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by wgabrie, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,720
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sending troops to colleges and rounding up kids in buses to harvest ballots? Do you have a link/s to any videos or news articles for that ?
    I'd like more information.
    Thnx
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2020
  2. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,709
    Likes Received:
    7,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nope.
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yep.
     
  4. PPark66

    PPark66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2018
    Messages:
    3,416
    Likes Received:
    2,314
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump will NOT win the popular vote.. Like in ‘16 he’ll need a narrow electoral college win.

    If we’re talking the scenario of Trump declaring himself the winner before the vote has been tabulated on the evening of November 3rd. Count on it.

    Yes there will be an attempt to stop states from counting ballots if day one tabulations are close. The Florida Bush/Gore scenario on steroids across the country. Signatures rather than chads will be challenged.

    Personally I’ve got the patience to wait for the vote to be counted though am not naive. Any quest to retain power can get over the top crazy.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2020
    Arkanis likes this.
  5. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,709
    Likes Received:
    7,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sorry but nope.
     
  6. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Clinton called Trump at 2:30 AM to concede, and did so publically later that morning.
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And has said otherwise ever since with her "we know who REALLY won" whinings along with her Dem/MSM buddies.
     
    LoneStarGal likes this.
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yep to this day she whines about having REALLY won.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2020
    LoneStarGal likes this.
  9. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,128
    Likes Received:
    6,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is why we have an electoral college. The fake ballots have to come from the right places. Winning every vote in California and New York does not a President make. Cheating and getting away with it will be difficult.
     
    LoneStarGal likes this.
  10. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,709
    Likes Received:
    7,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    She did by 3,000,000 votes.
     
  11. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Messages:
    20,709
    Likes Received:
    7,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The electoral system, as intended, should have been eliminated after 1861 as the only reason we have the electoral college was to give slave states more voting weight as the majority of their populations were slaves who could not vote. Once the Civil War began, the electoral college system became moot.
     
  12. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    4,001
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Biden could win by about 6 million votes and still lose because of the EC.

    The EC is an existential threat to representative government, which Trump is currently demonstrating.
     
    Arkanis likes this.
  13. Monash

    Monash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2019
    Messages:
    4,610
    Likes Received:
    3,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Happy to be corrected if wrong but didn't Clinton win the 'popular' vote by about 2% over Trump at the last election?

    As I understand it it's not the popular vote that matters but rather how those votes are distributed by the Electoral College. So how is the question posted in this thread different? If Binden wins this time round based on distributions from the Electoral college what has changed? Answer: nothing.

    Don't see how you can cry 'foul' just because this time your preferred candidate loses when the exact same mechanism saw him win last time.
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    [
    They will if it happens though. Indeed, I confidently expect some will take their arsenals in tow and head for the hills. Hopefully, the realization that people weighing in excess of 300lbs make generally poor guerillas will keep too many people from coming to any real harm
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2020
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just what, in your estimation, would we have to do to "accept" the results of this election?
     
  16. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,128
    Likes Received:
    6,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Excuse me but I will jump in here. Run it like the last election.
     
    LoneStarGal likes this.
  17. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    What's the prize for this supposed win?

    Because, a winner usually gets a prize, amiright?
     
    LoneStarGal likes this.
  18. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I have no idea how what will be the circumstances the night the polls close. How about this we all go to our polling place show an ID to get a ballot and cast it right there.
     
  19. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Proving my point thank you very much.
     
  20. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There is no national popular vote how often does that have to be stated. You do NOT vote in a national election. No one in the history of the country has ever voted in a national election. There are 51 separate and unique elections held in order to choose all the Electors who will elect the President. Tallying up those 51 separate and unique elections and declaring that an accurate reflection of a national popular vote is political and statistical folly. Interesting trivia but of no substance.
     
    Idahojunebug77 and LoneStarGal like this.
  21. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    False, as designed the STATES elect the President not the PEOPLE.
     
    Bravo Duck and LoneStarGal like this.
  22. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,729
    Likes Received:
    32,443
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So what?

    If that happens, Biden WILL WIN.

    Who cares how the Losing Side reacts?

    The cops will have their hands full, and deal with what comes.
     
    Arkanis and ChiCowboy like this.
  23. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump just needs to win enough electoral votes, the total number of votes cast across the country aren't the primary factor. It's a huge assumption to believe Biden is going to win on any level. Sounds more like liberals are gearing to up to whine about another loss...
     
    Bravo Duck and LoneStarGal like this.
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm sorry, I was unclear. What must we Democrats do to "accept" the results of the LAST election, that is, 2016?

    As far as 2020 goes I agree with that given any change necessitated by the Covid pandemic
     
  25. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    13,909
    Likes Received:
    3,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I wonder if the electoral vote could be voted by mail too? Have I just come up with a brilliant plan???
     

Share This Page