Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ President repeatedly disparaged war dead

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Shout that baloney from the mountain tops. ;-)
    Trump has repeatedly praised our troops.
    Trump has never denigrated them. Just another futile DP/MSM election cycle Big Lie to go along with the equally futile Big Lie about a plan to end Social Security.
    Not good for the DP and its Fake News MSM.
    More votes for Trump. :)
     
  2. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I did no such thing.

    Your piece was from years ago!!

    It was a pure partisan screed that happened to include some polling data.

    And, your comment is just plain pathetic.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    You need to produce an actual credible witness, as opposed to a made up one, for corroboration. Sucks for the DP - doesn't it. ;-)
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    .

    Everyone here who pays the slightest attention knows that I am not a partisan.
    That is why I support Trump. If you are really not a partisan you should too. :)

    The RP is repulsive.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    The thing about "fake news" is that it applies to anything and everything that doesn't match your preconceived notions.

    If your interest can't stretch outside your preconceived notions, why would you ever be interested in ANY news?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Trump's treatment of those who serve is well documented EVERYWHERE.

    Look at the tapes of him lashing out and gold star mothers.

    Watch the tapes of the disparagement he heaped on McCain.

    Read the statements of his neice.

    The thing you don't get about learning what's going on in this world is that you need to cross check with multiple sources.

    The "it's the msm" thing is just total failure. Sitting in front of the nightly news, which is a BUSINESS rated by POPULARITY is not an activity for anyone interested in what's actually happening.

    Now, go try again!
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    LOL!!!

    The RP is Trump.

    There is NO RP outside of Trump.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    All that copy with no support from any of your fav sources of information.
    What does that mean? ;-)
     
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    There you go again. ;-)
    By now everyone knows that the RP party bosses hate Trump's guts.

    OTOH, Biden is the ultimate incompetent partisan establishment Democrat.
    Only a very partisan establishment Democrat could vote for him.
    Which is why many ordinary American Democrats and Independents are going to vote against the DP again in November because, like the RP - the DP is repulsive to ordinary human beings.

    Here is a source - just for you ;-):

    "Moore, who was one of few political observers to predict Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016, said that “enthusiasm for Trump is off the charts” in key areas compared with the Democratic party nominee, Joe Biden.

    “Are you ready for a Trump victory? Are you mentally prepared to be outsmarted by Trump again? Do you find comfort in your certainty that there is no way Trump can win? Are you content with the trust you’ve placed in the DNC [Democratic National Committee] to pull this off?” Moore posted on Facebook late on Friday."
    THE GUARDIAN, Michael Moore warns that Donald Trump is on course to repeat 2016 win, 8/30/20.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p-is-on-course-to-repeat-2016-win/ar-BB18vcIg
     
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    Politics isn't about love. Who the heck cares if McConnell hates Trump?

    The issue is what they DO, not their innermost feelings for each other.

    And, what Republican congressmen and the RNC do is to follow Trump, who has them on a short leash.



    And, please try to stick to your topic.
     
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    I am right on topic. So is Michael Moore.
    All this late election cycle Fake News will not put a dent in Trump.
    The WaPo "Fact Checker" was just forced to give a Biden ad 4 Pinocchios to protect the last few shreds of its credibility. Poor old Joe.

    Trump dragged the corrupt repulsive RP kicking and screaming to victory in 2016.
    The party bosses got a peak over the abyss in 2018. They will support him now or lose their seats. OTOH, Trump could probably win without their support - by a bigger margin. Almost all the old RP pols are dead political weight.
     
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    The topic is Trump's disgusting comments about our troops.

    And, YOU wanted confirmation on the Atlantic story.

    That story was confirmed on a piece on Fox.

    But, not even THAT matters, as Trump has illuminated his total disrespect for service on numerous occasions. The Atlantic article is only one of many.

    So, it's confirmation should not even really be seen as a big deal. Trump disrespects service. Live with it.

    Why do right wing toadies constantly try to make Trump out to be someone he isn't. He is a white supremacist. He disrespects service. He sees religion as no more than a campaign bit. He uses tax deductible donations to prop up his businesses and to pay defense lawyers in his personal legal troubles that have nothing to do with the presidency. He's unwilling to address the Russian payments made for killing US troops. He takes bailout money he signed into law and uses it to bail out his personal businesses. He refuses to take action to defend our democracy against the assaults by foreign countries made in his favor. etc., etc., etc.

    That is the guy you like. Don't try to turn him into something that he isn't.
     
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    Not a single named source.

    Late election cycle Fake News and anonymous sources destroys the credibility of Trump's disingenuous opposition. The DP/MSM should have just told the truth.
    The real liars are getting caught red handed with remarkable frequency now.

    "Without fail during a tough election season, Democrats bring up Social Security. The ads are often ubiquitous in states with high percentages of senior citizens who rely on Social Security as their main source of income.
    Trump gets mentioned in this ad three times. But there is no such Trump plan."
    WASHINGTON POST, Fact Checker, Analysis, Biden campaign attacks a Trump Social Security ‘plan’ that does not exist, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's campaign released an ad that attacks a President Trump Social Security plan that doesn't exist., By Glenn Kessler, September 4, 2020.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...um=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_fact

    Bet you can't wait to see the next Trump ad tacking all those WaPo Pinocchios on the Biden campaign. ;-)

    I pointed out that the DP should have hired smarter strategists after 2016, but did they listen?
     
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    Spam alert.
     
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    That's what Pinocchio said. ;-)
     
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    did the President mean the really good soldiers make it back home alive and not injured?

    or that they all are suckers and losers for enlisting in the military to begin with?
     
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    With Trump as president, they are more likely to make it back home alive and not injured.
     
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    Ya know, that kind of speculating serves neither side.
     
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    Hello. I am a veteran of the Vietnam Conflict (as it is formally known) and I do know a bit about why people enlist. If it is a bogus war then Democrats like Lyndon Johnson will draft you. He sure tried with me and millions more American men, but rather than take two years active duty in the Army, instead I volunteered for four years active in the Navy...and ultimately did two tours off Vietnam. Yawn. Big deal. Never saw a shot fired. But yeah, I served.

    You imply service people are suckers. The millions of men and women who have received training they applied DIRECTLY to civilian jobs will instantly disprove that. "Free" training, yes, requiring an exchange of services for value received which ensures an income for a lifetime if properly applied. Training in that all-too-valuable commodity of self-discipline. These suckers show up for the job interviews. These chumps can walk up to say a test bench and prove on that spot that they know how to do thus-and-so. Uncle Sugar trained these layabouts. They paid back to their country what blessings their country has paid to them.

    Me? I was such a sucker that to see places I would never ever get to otherwise see, I extended that four to the full obligation of six years active. I was such a bad sailor I hung around instead of swum ashore. I came away knowing more about America by being away from her. It was the best hardest years of my life.
     
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    Just another Fake News fabrication with no real source or real quote.
     
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    You have it backwards. Anonymous sources are confirmed by independent reporters. That's why these outlets published their own findings.

    The Atlantic is not MSM. You should know that. You should have already known that.

    Trump has people believing things without question. Of course, that's the only way he could do it. Even the most naive skepticism reveals Trump for the dishonest buffoon he is. His only hope for support is in brainwashing people. He's succeeded handsomely. Must be our education system.
     
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    Anonymous sources are anonymous sources. No one other than the original reporters can question them. There is no way to check anything.. On the other hand their are more than four sources who say it did not happen and they can be questioned.
     
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    It is what it is. *eyeroll*
    Says who? You? You don't know what the relationships are, what the agreements are, nor whether a source talked to more than one person. You don't know who all was there nor what was said. You know nothing about the situation at all.

    Do you take this same attitude in solving crime? Crimes are solved in the exact same manner. A rookie cop who acts on a tip from his first snitch will not go back to that snitch if his story doesn't pan out. Veteran detectives have built a network of reliable sources from which they gain valuable information.
    And yet, I see no names nor quotes from these "sources." I see no questions being asked of them. I would think Trump, as the POTUS, would assemble these "sources" and settle the issue once and for all. But he hasn't. I wonder why that is...
     
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    Deep Throat is the source's name. Deal with it.

    And if you see a crime being committed, do not, DO NOT call secret witness. Cops don't believe anonymous sources. Bunch of deep-state communist liars, those secret witnesses.

     
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    I know just as much about it as you. There have been people on HLN who said they were there and said it did not happen. John Bolton said he was there and did not believe it happened.
     

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