2020 EARLY VOTING statistics

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    At the end of 2019, I sure as heck did not have "gee, there's going to be a pandemic, I bet that up to 75 million people will vote early" on my 2020-crazy-as-a-loon-bingo-card, but here we are.

    There is an electoral stats junkie/pro out there named Michael McDonald. He is the head of "projectelect" and a professor at a well known University in Florida. I've chatted with him now and then. He's a straight shooter, only interested in the numbers.

    Anyhoo, he has put together was is surely going to be one of the most visited websites in the world pretty soon:

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

    Here a screenshot of the website:

    2020-09-021 early voting Michael.png

    The color you see for Virginia has nothing to do with RED-BLUE as we associate with our two major political parties. It just means that that is the state to have reported the most early votes having been returned. It also lists no stats to date as to whether ballots have been accepted or rejected and I doubt that he would have access to that information handily, anyway.

    What McDonald does not count, which should please both Conservatives and Liberals here in PF, are the requested or cast early ballots by party affiliation.

    Bravo to him for working this way. Why? Because in this turbulent election, no one really knows for whom a person is going to cast his or her ballot, anyway.

    What IS very telling, however, is the sheer number of ballots that have already been requested.

    If you go to the website and click on "mail ballots requested", you will see this:

    2020-09-021 early voting Michael 002.png

    This time, the states with the darker colors are California, Washington State, New Jersey, Michigan and Florida.

    Currently, in Florida, 20,921,513 (20.9 MILLION) mail ballots have been requested. That's just under 75% of the entire registered electorate in California.

    In Florida, it is currently: 4,624,265 requested mail-in ballots, which is 33.2% of all RVs in Florida:

    2020-09-021 FL VR stats.png

    So, if you like, you can refer to Michael McDonald's website to keep up on the most recent data.

    He has been crunching data like VR, VT, VEP and VAP for years and years:

    http://www.electproject.org/

    Like I said, he's a straight shooter and provides correct, timely numbers.

    -Stat
     
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    I can't believe people are voting before the first debate even occurs.
     
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    Yeah, that is pretty nuts.
     
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    Given the political climate it doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. I doubt there’s very many people who would be swayed one direction or another by any upcoming debates.
    Would an outstanding debate performance by Biden change your vote?
     
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    Is there even a remote chance you change your mind based on anything that happens in the debates?
     
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    Sure I'm open minded. Are you saying we should just cancel them?
     
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    I think there are still a lot of undecideds. I just find it questionable that you are one of them.

    I can't wait for the debates. I don't watch the week long commercials anymore, but debates are fun.
     
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    Depends vis-a-vis Trump's. But we see Trump tested on a daily basis. The question is really to Biden supporters, if he has a total and complete meltdown and cannot get through questions and answers better that he has been doing already forgetting key facts and stumbling to find the words he is trying to express will they change their votes or put someone with dementia into the White House?
     
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    Forgive me if I’m skeptical of your sincerity.
    I think the debates should happen, if only for the sake of getting candidates on record for things they should be held accountable for in the future, but I also doubt they’ll change anyone’s minds.
     
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    I didn't say I was undecided just that I have an open mind about it and will try to listen to both sides and judge accordingly. I wasn't a Trump voter last time and still cannot stand the guy personally.
     
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    I don’t like Biden. I’m not voting for Biden. I’m voting against Trump. Honestly the Dems could put forward a golden retriever at this point. I’d still vote against Trump.
     
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    Because you don't personally like Trump or his policies?
     
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    Both.
    I joke of course about the voting preference. I’d vote third party if I believed Biden was absolutely unfit for the job. Still don’t like him or what he represents to the party all the same though.
     
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    What is your policy difference with Trump that you agree with Biden?
     
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    I’m not a fan of Trump’s foreign policy. His abuse of or allies while he fawns over America’s rivals doesn’t sit right with me. Biden has foreign policy experience and I think he can do a better job.
     
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    I have no problem with his stumbling to find the right words, he is a stutter. Its a condition, has nothing to do with intelligence, he stutters.
    Big deal.
    I am 100% dyslectic, my brain works completely different, my brain works so to speak with picture, have a photographic memory, for me everything is back wards, words I wright, math, if I wright by hand its jumbles, if I look while typing with a keyboard, its ok, its pictures I wright.
    Does that make me stupid, hell no.
    I admire a guy like Biden, it took serious work for him to be able to speak as well as he does, especially if he has to collect his thoughts and you have to be the real guy to take his problem public and everybody can see it.
    That is a real strong person.
     
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    What abuse of Allies and what has he done FOR China and FOR Russia? Biden has experience alright and as for Obama's SEcretary of Defense who recently said he has been on the wrong side of it all his life.

    On Face the Nation

    MARGARET BRENNAN: ..................Would he be an effective commander-in-chief?

    ROBERT GATES: I-- I don't know. I don't know. I-- I think I stand by that statement. He and I agreed on some key issues in the Obama administration. We disagreed significantly on Afghanistan and some other issues. I think that the vice president had some issues with the military. So how he would get along with the senior military, and what that relationship would be, I just-- I think, it-- it would depend on the personalities at the time.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: He's a peer of yours. Does that mean you're older?

    ROBERT GATES: Yes.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You think he's right for this moment?

    ROBERT GATES: I think I'm pretty busy and pretty active but I think-- I think having a President who is somebody our age or older, in the case of Senator Sanders, is- I think it's problematic. I think that you don't have the kind of energy that I think is required to be President. I think-- I'm not sure you have the intellectual acuity that you might have had in your sixties. So, I mean it's just a personal view. For me, the thought of taking on those responsibilities at this point in my life would be pretty daunting.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...arly_every_major_foreign_policy_question.html

    He wrong about getting Usama Bin Laden and I have no reason to believe he would stand up for AMERICA's interest in the world.

    Did you not support Trump forcing NATO to step up to the plate for which the head of NATO praised him? The trade deals which even Biden praised. How about the ME peace deals? What did Biden ever do that ever came close in your opinion?
     
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    That's not a stutter that is a brain fart, that is a loss of mental ability and has spoken to large crowds and given speeches all his life without this disjoined loss of words and what he was even speaking about. Don't insult stutters as having mental problems in putting together two sentences and remembering of what they even speaking about. Why do you think they have so limited his impromptu to speaking even having a teleprompter at his town hall to give him the answers. That's not going to fly on the world stage.
     
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    I have a bit too much going on tonight to really give this argument much time tonight.

    Here’s a good article on Trump’s failures.
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/31/trump-destruction-foreign-policy/

    And here’s a media bias/fact check of the source.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/foreign-policy/?amp
     
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    Says the man with an open mind based on debate performances. It’s okay to admit you’re hot for Trump.
     
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    Says the man with an open mind and makes his own judgements based on the facts as in Biden's inability to put two sentences together these days. Having an open mind does not prevent seeing reality. Did you see him in the previous debates? When he had to ask if his time was up because he lost himself in what he was trying to say? The times he has to say "well you know what I mean" and then drift off because he can't come up with what he means? Do you have an open mind and see those things too? That I don't have a lot of hope for him does not mean I'm closed minded to how he may do.
     
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    If you got something to say then say it I don't chase blind links trying to figure out what that is. I know what are Trump's successes and they quite noteworthy and extraordinary and have been good for the United States and the world. I can't come up with any by Biden in particular. List me some.
     
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    That's really early, I don't think we start our early voting until October 24th.
     
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    Just thought I’d check in.
    I’ve said what I have to say. Trump’s foreign policy is abysmal. Read the link or don’t. His failures don’t hinge on my willingness to enumerate them.
     
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    This is a discussion forum if there is something in your links you believe supports your position copy and paste the relevant part and discuss and it's not for me to try and determine what you are trying to say. For you to say that the trade agreements, the ME peace agreements, the getting our soldiers out of harm's way, the elimination of key terrorist leaders (and again it was Biden who advised Obama NOT to go after UBL), and the strengthening of NATO an abysmal foreign policy what does it take to make for a good one? What have been Biden's foreign policies successes and what say you to Secretary Gates assessment which I quoted here. I just trying to figure out why you believe Biden would be the better manager of foreign policy keeping America's interest first and foremost.
     
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