Trump & Barr manufacture voter fraud scandal (9 ballots tossed)

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    So far no one has found any corrupt activity involving Hunter and this company.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Both exchanged goods and services for money. That's how business works. You think that the Trump's didn't get money for their properties? Hell, in at least one case they were paid millions more than the property was actually worth . . . often a sign of money laundering.
     
  3. struth

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    oh my...read the senate report

    and despite Joe threatening to withhold billions in aid if the ukraine govt didn’t fire the attorney investigating Hunter’s company...it was corrupt
     
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    of course they did...real estate

    and no they didn’t

    the biden’s provided nothing...yet
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Valid point, and some articles have pointed that out.

    Oh, and the ballots in question were PRIMARY ballots, not general election.

    A small detail the right has been ignoring.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    yeah, that's the latest, and it hardly equals "dems stealing the election'.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whatever it is?

    You missed the all important fact that In a national vote of some 165 million votes cast, more or less, there will ALWAYS be irregularities here and there. This has been the historical fact.

    The only difference is, in the past, we didn't have a buffoon president and AG making hay out of crap, given the inconsequence of small mishaps, such that it has no ultimate bearing on the outcome of an election, which this president and AG does for the purpose of undermining the confidence in the electoral process in the hopes of creating apathy in the minority ranks, such that they wouldn't vote as much.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Incompetent rebuttal: vacuous unsubstantiated claim
     
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  9. struth

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    it's 100 percent factual...if you want accountabltly and transpareny elect a GOP Admin....if not it will be whip under the rug and covered up
     
  10. Lee Atwater

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    I just watched Hayes' reporting on the story. It's a bit complicated but part of the reason for the confusion is the Trump campaign's suit over "naked ballots." That is, the desire to have ballots not in their secrecy envelope thrown out.

    Here is the important takeaway, IMO. This is the "election stealing" equivalent of Billy the Bagman's obscene deceit regarding the Mueller report. Let me explain.

    The Bagman's purpose for quickly mischaracterizing Mueller's report as having exonerated Trump before it was available to the public to make their own determination............when Barr's deceit was a million miles from the truth...........was to get the headline out there so the narrative would be about exoneration. What happened after that, namely, the facts showing Mueller had not exonerated Trump (especially regarding obstruction), was less important than getting the false narrative out in to the air supply.

    Enter the story about the ballots. Once again, the devil being in the details. Details, as in the Mueller report, that require some attention because as Barr showed they can be obfuscated with a catchy headline. Does Team Trump care about the details? No. Their goal is to get a story circulating to reinforce the idea the election is being stolen from Trump.......when the opposite is true.

    In short, it's propaganda. Propaganda with the seal of the DoJ on it. A seal that these days should be a huge red flag to anyone concerned with truth or justice.

    My prediction. We will continue to hear this story referenced all throughout the election.........and beyond.........long after it has been completely debunked.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm glad I can put your mind at ease. The US doe not have a problem with voter fraud as numerous, extensive studies have shown. Feel better?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Election experts said the announcement was highly irregular. Justice Department policy calls for keeping voter fraud investigations under wraps to avoid affecting the election outcome, and the experts said it was almost unheard-of for the department to provide an update on the case and disclose the name of the candidate for whom the ballots had been cast."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/politics/pennsylvania-mail-in-voter-fraud-investigation.html

    Showing, once again, there is nothing Barr's DoJ will not do........no violation of policy it will not endorse........to help Trump get re-elected. In this case by purposely misleading consumers of this story.
     
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    DoJ policy is that they neither confirm or deny the existence of an investigation. In this case they were so eager to get a press release out the door, in order to advance a politicized narrative, that they made a mistake on how many ballots were for Trump.

    Furthermore, the issue here should has nothing to do with who the ballots were cast for. The issue is the mistake made to cause the ballots to be mistakenly discarded. Publicizing who the ballots were cast for shows the malicious intent and violation of policy by the actors involved.
     
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    We also haven’t had an election with this many mail in ballots and opportunity for fraud.
     
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    Yes and we've never mailed out unsolicited ballots to everyone that ever voted in a given district before.
     
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    To registered legal voters

    We’ve also never voted in a pandemic before
     
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    Which in some districts includes people that have been dead for years.
     
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    And who is going to cast those votes... risking five years in jail...
     
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    Any homeless person for a six-pack or a couple of joints because frankly the likelihood they'll get caught in such districts provided they vote Democrat is essentially nil. Oh and provided you are under fifty and have no other major illnesses your likelihood of being much more than mildly inconvenienced by covid approach zero.
     
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    And when they point to the guy that put them up to it to stay out of jail?
     
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    Again they won't have to. Because no one is even asking the question.
     
  22. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    And, you're point is?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Anyone can say anything. Back up your claim, otherwise, your claim is vacuous, unsubstantiated, etc.
     
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    Your graph backs it up....
     
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    That the process is open to corruption on a massive scale.
     

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