Gateway Pundit creates petition to GET Chris Wallace

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  1. PatriotNews

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    What can be more racist than saying you must vote a certain way based on the color of your skin? Are you really going to tell me that if Trump were to say, "if you don't vote for me, you ain't white" that that would not in fact be a racist statement? It's ridiculous to claim this is not a racist statement!
     
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    Thanks for proving my point about overcapitilization, and misuse of "fascist." This was entirely too easy.

    I do not "get bent out of shape" over Donald John Trump, except that this is not now about February 1 and he is settled in for his second term. By that time the Dems should be just about halfway through throwing fits over the return. Fun to watch for all, ahead....
     
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    For someone who spent ten years working in Ann Arbor, even briefly, indirectly for the U of M itself, I say you are 100% wrong. I know what hard left is, firsthand. (I once worked for the Wobblies in Ann Arbor, and that's as far left as it gets.) The political correctness and pervasive --- make that insidious --- leftist groupthink throughout that entire town is intolerable. I suspect any research they do which presumes to know what conservatives are or believe.
     
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    Ever heard of FLAILING because that term describes the content of your posts quite succinctly.

    The EVIDENCE for that flailing is right there in the asinine content of your post above.

    Instead of FACTS and/or SUBSTANCE you resorted to your usual PABLUM of INANITIES that had NO bearing whatsoever on the credibility of MBFC.

    Sad!
     
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    Since that really makes no sense at all I'll go you one better and propose I get to square off in a wrestling match with Ivanka
     
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    You continue to prove my point, overcapitalizing what must be a new standard in vapidity.

    The term is as old as computer programming. Any assumptions made about conservatives by the University of Michigan are entirely suspect. I grew up in their influence. Worked around and as I say briefly for them. I know my subject. This cannot be considered anything BUT Garbage In, Garbage Out until its biases are thoroughly checked.
     
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    I don't drag relatives into any political discussion, even her.

    That said, the objective lamestream media has apparently not asked how Melania Trump is doing.
     
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    :roflol:

    Given that the content of your posts can be characterized as partisan flailing sans credible substantiation that does NOT reflect well on your depth of "subject knowledge".

    MBFC uses a clearly defined METHEDOLOGY and additional CREDIBLE resources to render their ratings.

    A PRESTIGIOUS institute like MIT would have done their OWN background checking on MBFC prior to using it for their AI program.

    PRETENDING that MBFC is "garbage" merely exposes DESPERATION since you CANNOT produce any INDEPEDENT credible source to support your flailing allegations.

    Sad!
     
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    I'd drag Ivanka anyplace she'd let me

    I'll give Trump one thing, he knows how to put good eye candy all around him. I have this fantasy about a 4 way with him, Melania, that Mcenanny (sp) woman and Hope Hicks all on a conjugal visit in whatever prison he is sent to in 2021.
     
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    That whole post is a mess. Try again.
     
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    I’d say the only person directly related to Trump that’s off the table would be his son, Barron. Nepotism has seen to it that the rest of the Trump crime family is absolutely entangled in his administration and therefore fair game for criticism.
     
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    Wallace did prepare, tight, incisive questions. He never got the chance to ask them.

    Instead, he was interrupted, in average, once every thirty seconds by a ridiculous blowhard who wanted to make noise, but not have any serious discussion.

    Which, is apparantly, exactly what his lowbrow Trumpster audience wanted.

    The rest of the world, including Wallace, was appalled at Trump’s idiot act. Crude name calling and trying to talk over everyone else.

    There was no discussion, no debate, no exchange of ideas. Trump wanted none of that. He would have had to defend his empty record, which he didn’t want to do.

    So, he put on a **** show for his audience, which loves this kind of stuff, and isn’t up to handling substance (and is encouraged not to).
     
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    Oh please. A mish-mash of black Trump supporters (representative of a minority of blacks, I might add) delivering a smorgasbord of sound bites that paint a positive but decidedly questionable picture of Trump’s ‘accomplishments’.

    For instance, a quick shot of a 1987 NAACP convention book, showing that he’s chair of the "NY committee of citizens". And so? What were this committees views? And no mention of the fact that he’s repeatedly snubbed invites to attend recent NAACP conventions, prompting this response...

    “During his campaign, President Trump asked us ‘what do you have to lose?’ This is the second time President Trump has refused an offer to speak at our annual convention. We get the message loud and clear. The President’s decision today underscores the harsh fact: we have lost – we’ve lost the will of the current Administration to listen to issues facing the Black community.

    … or been censured by the NAACP in June for his executive order on policing. And his school proposals? Smoke and mirrors. The legislation for this exists already, enacted under Obama - probably one the few pieces of Obama legislation to survive Trump intact. The 1994 Crime Bill? That passed easily with bi-partisan support, and republicans who voted against it did so because it wasn’t tough enough. Further, incarcerations were already increasing. The bill is believed to have exacerbated this but it contained numerous other provisions, from substantial increases in police funding to protections for women from violence. Biden himself fought against many of it’s harsher provisions, and has said that while parts of it were good, others were not. Similarly, black unemployment and poverty rates were already declining under Obama. Trump inherited the downward trend (see graphs below). And while that trend is good, black unemployment remains higher than overall unemployment rates.

    Need I go on?

    What’s more, the idea that Biden is racist - or that Trump has worked wonders - is belied by the fact that about 80% of blacks support Biden.

    This, of course, explains the sort of Trump campaign ad you’ve posted here - grasping at straws so far as black support is concerned, in the misguided belief that people won’t see it as such. Let the barrel scraping continue - it won’t change a thing.

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    Who said the racial jungle is black only? No one!

    Biden is supporting integration. By "racial jungle" he means a dangerous place (jungle) infused with racial tension.

    "...the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high..."

    If you're not able to see this, fine. The context, however - Biden's overarching support for the black community with regard to schools - makes it quite clear that your perception is wrong.
    Clearly, you're not aware of the complex and long-running nature of the bussing issue. Nor, it seems, Biden's position. Initially, he was a fervent supporter of bussing. He modified his support somewhat, largely in response to constituents - both black and white. (Which, by the way, is what politicians are supposed to do). However, this does not mean that he was against integration. Rather, Biden was concerned - as many were - that simply bussing students elsewhere would lessen the drive to improve primarily black schools, and that communities should have more control and the ability to do so. A position which BLM endorses. Additionally, his position on one facet of race relations, presented out of context, is no basis for declaring him a racist.

    The fact that he was Delaware's senator for 36 years, where one-fifth of the population is black, would also argue against any such suggestion.
     
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    The democrats have a long history of being the party of racism. Biden has a long history of racism. The President has a long history of helping the black community. People are waking up to the lies and are starting to look into and do the research for themselves. You can't hide the truth about the democrats and Biden. The President rexieved awards from the NAACP years ago, and from Jesse Jackson. He only suddenly became a white supremacist when he announced as a GOP candidate. You have CNN to try and block the truth, but the truth is getting out.

     
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    Wow. Well I'm not surprised that you defend segregation or racist comments by Joe Biden. There's really no low leftists will not go to defend their white supremacist candidates. The brag that BLM is fine with segregation as well is no surprise since it is a racist marxist organization. Not anything to brag about.
     
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    Your video contains the same feeble talking points:

    An award from Wallace that he apparently got in 1973 mentioned in one sentence in a 1987 article (choice barrel scraping)?

    Again, NO mention of the fact that Biden stated, way back, how listening to Wallace turned his stomach, or the fact that he threatened to vote Republican if Wallace won the primary.

    The racial jungle thing? We've been there, done that.

    Speaking at a KKK funeral? That was for Robert Byrd, in 2010 - 58 years after Byrd left the KKK (describing his membership as "the greatest mistake I ever made".)

    Opening up properties for African Americans and jews? No idea what Hogan's referring to. I am, though, well aware of Trump's having to settle a lawsuit for doing quite the reverse.

    As for your own additions:

    Trump never received an award from NAACP. You're probably thinking of a picture of him wearing an award that Michael Cohen mistakenly tweeted out as an NAACP award. In fact, it was an award set up by his real-estate broker because he was miffed that all the Medals of Liberty went to new immigrants that year - can't imagine why. Just 4 out of his own award recipients were black, out of 80.

    Jesse Jackson award? Again, I think you're confused. Trump was involved in Jackson's New York Project, and thanked for it, but Jackson himself says he hasn't had a good relationship with Trump "for decades". And he's had plenty to say to make that quite plain.

    Still waiting for your explanation of why 80% of blacks support Biden if he's such a racist.
     
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    Well, I'm not surprised you say so as it seems you're afflicted with a serious case of tunnel vision, and a deficit of knowledge re the complexities of the bussing controversy.

    Opposing a certain type of bussing, for example, does not mean you oppose bussing, period. Nor does the fact that you feel that other things should be prioritized over bussing (such as improving black schools) mean that you oppose bussing. And (ergo) neither of these things means that you oppose segregation. Obviously.

    Similarly, my post didn't say that BLM is "fine with segregation". If you read it more carefully, BLM endorses the idea that communities should have the control and ability to improve local schools. Again, this does not mean they are fine with segregation, and it's quite frankly ludicrous to suggest it does, if for no other reason than it's not an either/or game.
     
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    Thanks for making me do some research on the subject or I wouldn't have found this quote:

    A September 20, 1987, story in the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Biden had bragged about receiving an award from George Wallace, the former Alabama governor and one of America’s most notorious segregationists.

    The same story went to quote a presidential primary campaign speech Biden had given in Alabama in which he said “we (Delawareans) were on the South’s side in the Civil War.”

    So it's even worse. Biden bragged about being on the side of SLAVERY!
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joe-biden-delaware-civil-war-860886/
    I have seen only an unverified picture of an article but no other evidence that he in fact said this and no evidence that the picture is real. Regardless, he liked George Wallace when he was an unrepentant racist segregationist but then once Wallace repented Biden didn't like him after that? More proof that Biden is a racist segregationist.

    I don't know what happened to change Biden's heart in one year, but he was still praising George Wallace in 1975.

    It was Biden who wrote in 1975 that the “Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/speaking-of-george-wallace/

    In 1976 the democrats gave us another Southern racist segregationist Democrat Jimmy Carter.
    Yeah, but you seem to think there's nothing wrong with implying black people come from the jungle.
    Yeah, racist white supremacist President Obama praised the KKK leader as well. Byrd was in the KKK for a couple of decades. He was a racist through and through. He was quite comfortable using the n-word just like his understudy Joe Biden. Biden called Byrd his mentor and his friend. So he was a friend of a KKK leader.

    SENATOR ROBERT BYRD SAYS WHITE ******S



    He allowed blacks and Jews into his golf clubs when at the time many golf clubs excluded them. But you knew that huh? He was sues for housing discrimination, as were many other NYC developers and landlords during that time. You failed to mention that the suit was settled without any finding of discrimination, no criminal liabilities and no findings of or admission of guilt. He was sued for discrimination which was never proved in other words.
    Yeah, it was the Ellis Ellis Island award for "patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity” alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. He also received and award from Muhammed Ali called the "Muhammad Ali Entrepreneur Award" in 2007.
    Trump supported Jesse Jackson's runs for President and in this video is praised by Jackson for his inclusiveness, promoting of diversity, and his opportunities for the undeserved communities. Trump goes on to mention his employment of blacks being 25% of his workforce and praises them as excellent workers.



    It is genuinely puzzling to me why blacks vote for democrats at all. I can't explain it. Especially given their history of supporting racism, Jim Crow laws and segregation, Joe Biden especially. Even after years of being a racist segregationist, George Wallace himself also received over 80% of the black vote for his last term as governor. Please explain that to me. I'd like to know why black people keep voting for the racist party and the racists democrats who did this to them, and have done nothing since for them.

    Maybe you can tell me what Biden ever did for black people. Name one thing. Waiting.
     
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    Being against bussing is a racist dog whistle like I said. It was too controversial to say, "Hey, I'm a racist segregationist", or "I don't want my children growing up in a racial jungle" (unless you are Joe Biden) so the racist code words was "forced bussing". Well that's just a get around against the United States Supreme Court's order in Brown vs the Board of Education to forcibly end segregation in schools! The only way to accomplish this in most cases was to bus the white children to black schools and black children to white schools. Of course if you made it voluntary, no white parents would voluntarily send their children to the black schools.
     
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    Well done for finally doing some research.

    There was no need to type out the Wallace/Philadelphia part - I’d already told you that. And again, what award? Clutching at straws, in the extreme. And again, negated by Biden’s statement that Wallace made his stomach churn, and his threat to vote republican if Wallace won the primary.

    Similarly obscure is the “we were on the South’s side in the civil” quote. And? This is a plain statement of fact, not an endorsement of slavery. Lacking any context or further speech, any suggestion to the contrary is a product of your imagination - because the statement itself doesn’t support it. So no, it’s not “even worse.”

    We already did this one - see the full quote. Biden is saying that democrats could use someone who’s outspoken and forthright like Wallace - someone with the same manner, not beliefs. People do with this Trump - “can’t stand his ideas but like the way he speaks his mind.”
    Sigh. What's that got to do with Biden?
    That’s because he didn’t. Again, his quote makes it perfectly clear that the jungle is a place of racial tension. The assumption that it's a place full of black people is entirely that - your assumption. Nothing at all in that statement supports your assumption.
    What part of 58 years out of the KKK don’t you get? What part of “biggest mistake of my life” don’t you get? What part of people change don’t you get? Utterly ridiculous and sadly desperate.

    Byrd apologized immediately after for using that phrase in repeating something his mother had told him.

    Biden used the n-word in quoting someone else, to convey in full the abhorrence of what they said.
    No, he escaped without those formalities, because he settled. What others do is no excuse.
    Yes it was the Ellis Island award - that’s precisely the award I was referring to when I said it was an award set up by his real estate broker. That was the Ellis Island award. And not, as I take it you realize by now, an NAACP award.

    Further, Trump’s particular award wasn’t for brotherhood, diversity, et al. Per the award spokesperson, it was for “professional contributions that benefited New York City as a real estate developer, as well as for his German heritage”.
    Yes, back in the day.

    Trump was, at much the same time, donating to Jackson’s presidential campaign, as well a participant in his New York project, which is what your video is about. But, as I said, Jackson states that he hasn’t had a good relationship with him in decades - and that’s putting it mildly.
    If you want to know, find out for yourself. Now that you’re getting the hang of this research malarky.

    In the meantime, it’s quite obvious that he’s been doing something right, given his enduring support in the black community.
     
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    Oh, because some people used busing as a way to mask their racism that means everybody did? What nonsense. Busing had its black opponents too, you know. Like I said, a complex issue driven by multiple and varying concerns.
     
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    I can't imagine that there are not more Trump haters in Fox who are just afraid to lose their job. But don't have the weight that Chris Wallace has.

    I very much disagree with Chris Wallace politically, but Fox would lose much more by firing him than Wallace would lose. I can see all three national chains seeking to recruit him
     
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    Why do I get the feeling that if I showed you a video of Joe Biden lynching black people and putting on a KKK hood while burning a cross you would come up with a good explanation as to why he did that?
     
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    LOL
     
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