Secret Service Travel Records Confirm Hunter Biden Trips Detailed In Emails

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    Lol this is propaganda with questionable emails from a computer that we have no clue who and where it came from .I've asked over and over for proof of payments to the Biden's and you come up with 0. That's the only proof that counts. And you approve of Trump lying over and over to the American people that the Trumps took money from the Chineses. Why oh Why do you have such contempt for the American people.

    At the Debate Trump claims the Biden's work for and took money from China without a shred of evidence to back him up. We both know that Trump shows complete contempt for Americans by making claims that are utterly unsupported by our intelligence agencies. And you are alright with that tactic.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-joe-biden-face-off-one-last-time/3725267001/
    USA TODAY
    "As expected, Trump went hard on accusations against Biden’s son, Hunter, and a recent report about the alleged contents of a computer hard drive purporting to document his Ukrainian and Chinese business ties. Federal authorities are investigating whether the material – supplied by Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer – is part of a Russian disinformation c
    campaign.

    "https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-joe-biden-face-off-one-last-time/3725267001/

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/1...nal-enterprise-crowd-cries-lock-him-up-986392
    'The president called out the Biden family as a “criminal enterprise” and sparked chants of “lock him up” from the crowd of supporters gathered to see him at the airport in Carson City." Sunday.https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020
    Once again Trump hasn't a shred of evidence. Once again he shows his utter contempt for the American people.
     
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    Apparently you are going to continue to ignore the facts....we know where the computer came from, the FBI has the computer and picked it up because of a money laundering investigation.

    I also provided a link, that shows the Bidens were getting millions from the Chinese. At least that's what Hunter's emails suggested.
     
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    All we have is right wing propaganda from FOCKs news. And Fox news they have no proof of ownership of a Biden computer "The FBI is in possession of the laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden which contained emails revealing his foreign business dealings, including contacts in Ukraine and China, two senior administration officials told Fox News" Your do not have the courage to show the only document that really counts and thats proof of payment to the Biden's. And in your contempt for the American people you approve of Trump lying to everyone that the Biden's are a criminal enterprise without a shred of real evidence. Why oh Why so much contempt on your part for the American people?
     
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    I don't have it to show,....I have no idea what the FBI has.....

    Not it's not propaganda that the FBI has Hunter's computer, and that they have an investigation on going....you know this, but refuse to admit it to yourself.
     
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    That's the trouble you have no proof where it came from and who actuly owned it none what-so ever. and you know that.
    Talk about denial you fully support Trump's lying to the American people by stating the Biden's are a criminal enterprise without a shred of evidence. Your contempt for the American people is what's driving your posts and you know that.
    At the Debate Trump claims the Biden's work for and took money from China without a shred of evidence to back him up. We both know that Trump shows complete contempt for Americans by making claims that are utterly unsupported by our intelligence agencies. And you are alright with that tactic.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-joe-biden-face-off-one-last-time/3725267001/
    USA TODAY
    "As expected, Trump went hard on accusations against Biden’s son, Hunter, and a recent report about the alleged contents of a computer hard drive purporting to document his Ukrainian and Chinese business ties. Federal authorities are investigating whether the material – supplied by Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer – is part of a Russian disinformation c
    campaign.

    "https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-joe-biden-face-off-one-last-time/3725267001/

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/1...nal-enterprise-crowd-cries-lock-him-up-986392
    'The president called out the Biden family as a “criminal enterprise” and sparked chants of “lock him up” from the crowd of supporters gathered to see him at the airport in Carson City." Sunday.https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020
    Once again Trump hasn't a shred of evidence. Once again he shows his utter contempt for the American people.
     
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    Yeah we do, a computer repair shop is where it came from, and he got it from Hunter Biden

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/purported-hunter-biden-laptop-linked-to-fbi-money-laundering-probe
    Multiple federal law enforcement officials, as well as two separate government officials, confirmed the authenticity of these documents, which were signed by FBI Special Agent Joshua Wilson. Wilson did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

    One of the documents, obtained by Fox News, was designated as an FBI “Receipt for Property” form, which details the bureau’s interactions with John Paul Mac Isaac, the owner of “The Mac Shop” who reported the laptop’s contents to authorities.

    The document has a “Case ID” section, which is filled in with a hand-written number: 272D-BA-3065729.
     
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    Lol wow you are short sighted. I'm talking about it origin's before the repair shop'

    No one knows who this guy Wilson is or if he is a real FBI agent. Do you have a photo of his credentials Of course not.

    Also consider:
    https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-disinformation-its-a-big-test-for-the-media/
    "But the key point of the article was predicated on false information that Giuliani has been spreading for a long time—and that appears to be linked to a Russian disinformation operation that the Post neglected to note in its article. That is, the Post piece, based on an unproven smear, is in sync with Moscow’s ongoing effort to influence the 2020 election to help President Donald Trump retain power. (The FBI and other parts of the US intelligence community have stated that Vladimir Putin is once again attacking the US political system to boost Trump.) And this story presents a challenge to the American media: how to report on an orchestrated campaign to affect the election that relies on disinformation, salacious and sensational material, and the revival of allegations that have already been debunked." On Wednesday, the New York Post released what it hailed as a bombshell: an unidentified computer repair store owner in Delaware had come to possess a laptop that contained Hunter Biden emails (and purportedly a sex tape), the hard drive and computer was seized by the FBI, the store owner at some point passed a copy of the hard drive to Rudy Giuliani, and one of the emails suggested that Hunter, who served on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma, may have in 2015 introduced a Burisma official to his dad, Vice President Joe Biden. The story depicts this as a big scandal, and Guiliani tweeted, “Much more to come.”
    https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-disinformation-its-a-big-test-for-the-media/

    There's way more to this story than the bogus right wing propaganda of FOCKS news

    [/QUOTE] Proves nothing about the origins of the computer or how legitigate the Emails are in the computer .Trump loves the notion of Russia interfering with an American election
     
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    Proves nothing about the origins of the computer or how legitigate the Emails are in the computer .[/QUOTE]
    1) like where did Hunter buy it? Why does that matter?
    2) Yes he's a real agent that signed those documents...really that's just desperation on your end to make sure a claim
    3) As I highlighted both the DNI and FBI confirmed the emails are no Russian disinformation
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-says-they
    “The FBI is the primary investigative agency responsible for the integrity and security of the 2020 election, and as such, we are focused on an array of threats, including the threat of malign foreign influence operations,” Tyson wrote. “Regarding the subject of your letter, we have nothing to add at this time to the October 19th public statement by the Director of National Intelligence about the available actionable intelligence.”

    Tyson added: “If actionable intelligence is developed, the FBI in consultation with the Intelligence Community will evaluate the need to provide defensive briefings to you and the Committee pursuant to the established notification framework.”
    4) I won't listen to Fox news, I'd listen directly to the FBI
     
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    Proves nothing about the origins of the computer or how legitigate the Emails are in the computer .[/QUOTE]
    1) like where did Hunter buy it? Why does that matter?
    2) Yes he's a real agent that signed those documents...really that's just desperation on your end to make sure a claim
    3) As I highlighted both the DNI and FBI confirmed the emails are no Russian disinformation
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-says-they
    “The FBI is the primary investigative agency responsible for the integrity and security of the 2020 election, and as such, we are focused on an array of threats, including the threat of malign foreign influence operations,” Tyson wrote. “Regarding the subject of your letter, we have nothing to add at this time to the October 19th public statement by the Director of National Intelligence about the available actionable intelligence.”

    Tyson added: “If actionable intelligence is developed, the FBI in consultation with the Intelligence Community will evaluate the need to provide defensive briefings to you and the Committee pursuant to the established notification framework.”
    4) I won't listen to Fox news, I'd listen directly to the FBI
     
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    So you REALLY don't know what is going on here and are clueless to this news today, the the gentleman who was on the other end of the email and confirms it is at the debate tonight guest of Trump. Hunter Bidens former business partner. "the big guy", you're really not aware of any of that?
     
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    It was forged from another computer Duh and you have no poof it wasn't
    Any credentials? Nothing none. Just you swalling Trash from FOCKS you have proven noting and you knowit.
    You can't even tell me where the computer originated from let alone if the emails were altered upon duplication. No proof

    Lol but FOCKs has thing to do with the real FBI

    That's just standard boiler plait.
    Your quotes are from FOX news you have no credibility. But why oh why do you have so much comtempt for the American People. You loved it when Trump told Biden that his family is a criminal enterprise.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusi...biden-laptop-story-over-credibility-concerns/

    But the key point of the article was predicated on false information that Giuliani has been spreading for a long time—and that appears to be linked to a Russian disinformation operation that the Post neglected to note in its article. That is, the Post piece, based on an unproven smear, is in sync with Moscow’s ongoing effort to influence the 2020 election to help President Donald Trump retain power. (The FBI and other parts of the US intelligence community have stated that Vladimir Putin is once again attacking the US political system to boost Trump.) And this story presents a challenge to the American media: how to report on an orchestrated campaign to affect the election that relies on disinformation, salacious and sensational material, and the revival of allegations that have already been debunked.
     
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    1) say what? hahahahah
    2) yes his name on the subpeonas
    3) what?
    4) yes, taht's what they say and do...when they have they would let the Committee know if they had actionable intel, currently they do not.
    5) no the quotes are from a letter from the FBI.....
    6) as I just highlighted from the FBI letter, this IS NOT RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION....literally the link I provided has a letter from the FBI saying that.
     
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    1) like where did Hunter buy it? Why does that matter?
    2) Yes he's a real agent that signed those documents...really that's just desperation on your end to make sure a claim
    3) As I highlighted both the DNI and FBI confirmed the emails are no Russian disinformation
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-says-they
    “The FBI is the primary investigative agency responsible for the integrity and security of the 2020 election, and as such, we are focused on an array of threats, including the threat of malign foreign influence operations,” Tyson wrote. “Regarding the subject of your letter, we have nothing to add at this time to the October 19th public statement by the Director of National Intelligence about the available actionable intelligence.”

    Tyson added: “If actionable intelligence is developed, the FBI in consultation with the Intelligence Community will evaluate the need to provide defensive briefings to you and the Committee pursuant to the established notification framework.”
    4) I won't listen to Fox news, I'd listen directly to the FBI[/QUOTE]

    This is just a copy of your post 159. Lol I've completely crushed 159 but you lack the intestinal fortitude to respond to it because you know what you have is bunk.

    You love it when Trump lied to the American people during the debate saying that the Biden's are a criminal enterprise without a shred of evidence. . Why so much contempt for the American people on your part. You claim you won't listen to FOX but you quote FOCKs And the Emails don't matter without proof of payments to the Biden's. You admit you've got no evidence in the least in that regard. You've got nothing. Your emails are just discussions but zero evidence that any criminality of any kind took place
     
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    This is just a copy of your post 159. Lol I've completely crushed 159 but you lack the intestinal fortitude to respond to it because you know what you have is bunk.

    You love it when Trump lied to the American people during the debate saying that the Biden's are a criminal enterprise without a shred of evidence. . Why so much contempt for the American people on your part. You claim you won't listen to FOX but you quote FOCKs And the Emails don't matter without proof of payments to the Biden's. You admit you've got no evidence in the least in that regard. You've got nothing. Your emails are just discussions but zero evidence that any criminality of any kind took place[/QUOTE]

    yeah the emails are discussions about potentially criminal behavior...that's why we have investigations to find out if crimes in fact took place....and that is why the FBI took possession of Hunter's computer to conduct a investigation of the Bidens for money laundering, that is also why they'll be interviewing their business partner as well
     
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    You love it when Trump lied to the American people during the debate saying that the Biden's are a criminal enterprise without a shred of evidence. . Why so much contempt for the American people on your part. You claim you won't listen to FOX but you quote from FOCKs And the Emails don't matter without proof of payments to the Biden's. You admit you've got no evidence in the least in that regard. You've got nothing. Your emails are just discussions but zero evidence that any criminality of any kind took place. And what was Julienne's roll in obtaining fake evidence
     
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    There is a ton of evidence, as I have provided and hence why the FBI opened the criminal probe of the Bidens and why they will be interviewing the Bidens former business partner.
     
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    Keep dodging. You claim you won't listen to FOX but you quote from FOCKs. And the Emails don't matter without proof of payments to the Biden's. You admit you've got no evidence in the least in that regard. You've got nothing. Your emails are just discussions but zero evidence that any criminality of any kind took place. And what was Julienne's roll in obtaining fake evidence
     
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    I quoted the letter from the FBI that was in a article from Fox. Fox didn't write the FBI's letter. Geez

    I am not the FBI conducting the investigation...I am merely posting on a poltiical forum information that is publicly available that highlights why there is a criminal probe of the Bidens....I don't know if they are guilty of anything yet.....
     
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    And you love Trump when he lied in the debate and told Joe Biden that the Biden's are a criminal family. Why so much contempt against the American people
    Keep dodging. You claim you won't listen to FOX but you quote from FOCKs And the Emails don't matter without proof of payments to the Biden's. You admit you've got no evidence in the least in that regard. You've got nothing. Your emails are just discussions but zero evidence that any criminality of any kind took place. And what was Julienne's roll in obtaining fake evidence.
     
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    No link. Thanks.

    Or show it in his tax returns. They’re available.

    And ... you’re talking about emails from 2017, right? When Biden didn’t hold any political office?
     
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    I am also aware of "sworn testimony" documenting the Roswell Aliens.
    ^Something that is exponentially MORE BELEVABLE than Trump's BS about "the big guy".

    So, again, what was your point?

    Surely, you can't be suggesting that Trump's Ridiculous Conspiracies be given any credence.
     
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    Keep dodging what? There is plenty of evidence of criminal conduct, hence why the FBI got involved and opened a case.

    Emails certainly matter, because that's why they opened the case....sure they need more to prove a crime as been committed, but to say the emails outlining the scam don't matter is just silly....they are working to gather more evidence, hence they interview with the Bidens business partner.

    Who's Julienne? and what fake evidence?
     
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    YES they are censoring it DUH. Not one of them attended the press briefing by the former business partner.
    Here is NPR said about reporting it

    "“We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners’ and readers’ time on stories that are just pure distractions. And quite frankly, that's where we ended up, this was … a politically driven event and we decided to treat it that way,” Samuel said. "
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/npr-slammed-dismissing-hunter-biden-laptop-scandal

    WHAT there is evidence and statements by NAMED SOURCES to back it up about the Democrat candidate being tied to a pay for play scheme and they just dismiss it out of hand. I wonder what the total number hours they gave to the Trump Russia collusion story which NEVER had any evidence to back it up.



    This is about Biden and the very real possibility of him having to pack his bags and vacate the WH after never should have been elected in the first place.
     
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    So you are saying you don't know what is going on either, well when you just get your news from the MSM which is not reporting I can see why you don't.

    Are you denying there is an email that has been produced and confirmed by the participants and not denied by the Biden's that show the "big guy" was to get 10% of the China deal? And yes I can prove it but no need if you don't deny it. Are you?
     
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    Pay for play? This dates from after Biden was VP. When he didn’t hold any political office. And he never received anything.

    So ... no pay and no way to play.

    Trump abused his office enough and potentially committed crimes before he was in office. He should have packed his bags and been shown the door but it is now clear that no level of corruption is high enough to convince Rs that a president should be removed. And he also should never have been elected in the first place.
     
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