Florida company warns employees they may lose jobs if Biden is elected.

Of course it is done all the time. Imagine being an employee of Expensify, and your CEO just emailed all 10 million customers a shame propaganda message that they need to vote for Biden, else they don't believe in democracy. That is still not voter intimidation, but any conservative or libertarian might want to keep their head down at work while they plan to move to a more neutral company or to a company with a conservative or libertarian CEO.

 

What an interesting, non-factual opinion. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh!

 

Obama, Biden and Democrats in general love creating more middle class full-time government jobs.

 

Of course it isn't voter intimidation when the owner sends a message to his/her customers - there is no carrot/stick in that equation. But when the person receiving the message is employed by the sender - is reliant upon the sender for an income - there is intimidation involved.

 

Naw. There's no way to know for whom an employee voted. The letter was simply the employer letting his employees know how one candidate or another is going to affect his business and therefore their jobs. While it was unwise, it was not illegal imo. We are told from every direction how this or that candidate will affect the various aspects of our lives and futures.

 

he warned them of "consequences" for not voting for Trump at the same time he was telling them to vote, that would be voter intimidation

 

to warn them of "consequences" for not voting for Trump while asking them to vote.... yes, that is what he did

 

California...


This is unimaginable where I live. The residents of my community would not tolerate it nor would we tolerate politicians that allow it.

The moral superiority the left displays is baffling to behold when you notice the caste systems they are creating in their states. Looking at wealth inequality by state it becomes readily apparent that there is an absolute correlation between wealth inequality and racial/cultural diversity. The less diversity a state has, the less wealth inequality it has. The data is undeniable. What is so terrifying about this is that MSM is fomenting hatred in minorities against whites based on this disparity. The success of white people is used as weapon to oppress and marginalize them. At the same time, at a federal level, the government is targeting white states for 3rd world immigration and refugees (creating wealth inequality where it did not exist before). You can see the effects of that in Minnesota and Michigan. The burning of Minneapolis was heavily reliant on a flood of Muslim Somali refugees who did not exist in Minneapolis 40 years ago (85% of the black population in Minneapolis are Somali Muslim immigrants or their children).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gini_coefficient

 

this country is almost bankrupt after Trump, Trump has spent more than any other President has in 4 years ever

 

the economy crashed under Bush and looks like it's gonna do the same because of Trump

were almost 30 trillion in debt with no end in sight, that is the only way we can keep the economy afloat at this point

 

the economy crashed because the dems in Congress failed to act when Bush repeatedly warned of fannie and freddie. Then obama took office and expanded the pain

The economy is coming out of a downturn because if the chinese virus and has booming back in a V shape

 

9.5 million people in Florida voted in 2016. Turnout will be higher this year. If all of DMC's employees did decide to vote for Joe Biden or all for Donald Trump, they would not effect the outcome by a fraction of a percent.

 

Including this in a letter with your paycheck instead of posting an announcement is an attempt to influence the way his employees are voting. His letter provides no basis for the claims. No basis for why Trump would be good, no basis for why Biden would be bad. Just a prediction of a grim future with no context if you vote for Biden.

Whether it rises to the level of illegal voter intimidation, I cannot say. There is no threat clearly spoken.

But the letter also does not contain any sensitive company information, trade secrets, etc. Firing the employee because he informed the media about it is what raises the question. If the guy will fire an employee just for alerting folks about a message regarding the two candidates in the election, what will he do to people he thinks voted for Biden? Impossible to say, but it doesn't look good.

My thinking based on the info in this thread is that the guy didn't do any outright voter intimidation because the letter contained no threats. It's only when taken with the full context of the business owner's support for Trump and his subsequent actions with the employee that uncertainty arises.

 

The left has been warning everybody of every possible kind of danger if Trump is re-elected. There is no rational reason, other than they want to win at any cost.
On the other hand, Trumps leadership has kept our economy amazingly strong through nearly a year of pandemic. I don't know for sure how, but it's true for many industries.
The stock market has done very well during this too, despite a short crash when the virus panic started, it's back and rising; my portfolio is well ahead of this date 1 year ago. Three of the stocks I own have gained over 100% this year.

Mr Daniels is correct. If Biden and the dems were to get elected and start implementing their plans, economic collapse will follow in short order. Even before they implement anything, the confidence of investors and financiers will drop dramatically- and make no mistake, that will have major impact. First, a huge stock market drop, as thousands of investor lose confidence in government and bail out. I've been investing 30 years, and I know serious investors in many areas. Financial writers, advisors, and people who have a lot of money in the market, and manage their own as I do. Not one of them thinks differently.

While MR Daniels may have been making a political statement and advising others of his concerns, he's not threatened them, he's done them a favor.

 

Yep, and if Biden "listens to scientists" and extends economic lockdowns longer than Trump will, then DMC has every reason to worry over slowed revenue growth....which naturally leads to layoffs. Elections have consequences. That's the lesson.

 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how ridiculous.

 

The DNC and RNC only give us an "illusion" that we are choosing the president. The parties pick the "top two" in every election until Trump, then let the people break the tie between two candidates who will follow the same pattern regardless of party label.

The people voices were louder than the party elites' establishment choices for the first time in 2016. If we aren't complete idiots, we can still take the country back from total government domination....or we can vote for total domination and vote Democrat for the quick slide and fast ride to Socialism.

 

If he had said, "If you vote for Biden, I will fire you", that would be a crime. But he neither said nor suggested such a thing.

 

No, he talks about the strong possibility of that happening. He didn't even promise that no layoffs would occur if Trump wins, only that a Trump win would make layoffs less likely.

Read his words literally. All you're doing is to conjecture about what he meant to say or what you interpreted him to say. Literally, nothing of what you are saying is what Daniels actually said.

 

So he is not suppose to tell his employees that their will be layoffs if there is no money?

 

I've always said the parties say different things but tend to do the same things when in power. Trump is doing what he can to have government work more like a business. He demands results like any good business manager. The swamp hates it. The left hates it. I'm for nearly anything the swamp hates. I don't care what the left hates.

 

Well, call it creating a politically biased employment atmosphere with both DMC and Expensify if you will. That certainly could make the "out" group uncomfortable in the workplace. I'll agree on that. I'll even agree that the letter wasn't the best idea. It could have been more "generic" about election outcome and how extended lockdowns and/or federal budget changes would negatively impact business and lead to layoffs, without mentioning Trump or Biden.

I won't agree that the political messaging from either company represents voter intimidation, because it isn't.

If I were a DMC employee and a Biden supporter, I would go vote for Biden. DMC doesn't need to know....and they are not asking employees to divulge their voting preferences. If I worked for Expensify, I might not feel comfortable as a Trump supporter to know that my CEO is a political bigot, but that would not sway or "intimidate" me at the polling booth. There is no "voter intimidation" going on.

Smith's lawyer would have a better case for "creating a hostile and intimating workplace" in general, however, discrimination over political beliefs and bias is not illegal. If it were, lots of companies would be facing lawsuits right now.

 

You think the first global pandemic in 100 years had something to do with that, particularly when the government forced people to shutter business and healthy people were forbidden to work? Continued shutdowns and military cuts are what Daniels is warning his employees about.

Granted, Trump did spend more money before the plandemic than any conservatives would like; however, what we see Democrats planning to spend on a pie in the sky tax scam called "Green New Deal" will make what Trump has spent on rebuilding the military defenses and on Covid relief combined seem like pennies.

 

The writing is certainly on the wall.

 

Stop putting business owners or managers on a pedestal. There are many business owners who are smart and good people, and there are some that are morons. This business owner belongs into the moron category. If I was employed there, I'd try to get out as soon an possible. If the owner makes business decisions based on gut feelings and politics rather than facts, you know that can't be good for the business in the long run.

BTW: I've employed 2-7 people since 22 years, so you can take your condescension elsewhere.