Who won 2020 American election?

IMHO the clear winners are Xi and Putin. The election proved that people don’t trust the democratic institutions and people need a strong leader to lead the country, maybe the same as in Russia or in China.
The leader will decide what is a fact and what is a fiction – no evidence is necessary.
If the leader says he lost 2016 popular vote because of millions illegal votes – no evidence or court ruling is necessary, the leader is right.
If the leader says the coronavirus is a Democrats hoax – no medical evidence is necessary, the leader is right.
If the leader says hydroxychloroquine is proper medication for coronavirus – the leader is right, does not matter what scientists are saying.

Majority of Republican leadership without seeing any evidence believe to the words of President Trump that he won.
Almost half of Americans believe the leader is right and no evidence is necessary to show the vote fraud.

It looks the American experiment with democracy reached his limit.

 

Wow, just wow!!!

 

Lol...what ridiculous nonsense.
The fact that Americans got rid of the lying demagogue trump in a democratic election proves you don't know what you're talking about.

 

America voted, and we said we do not want a dictator like Diaper Donald as are President

but Russia and China are happy with the way Trump is behaving, I am sure, they want to destroy democracy as much as Trump does

 

Why

Why, do they plan on invading us or something. Seriously how would a different political system favor them in any way?

 

they want to weaken us, so they can be the superpower again, they know the only way to beat us is to weaken us from within

they no more like democracy than we like communism

 

The states decide who wins via delegated electors, which isn't even supposed to have happened yet. The election is still ongoing and will be for some time, contrary to what our corporate media would have ppl believe.

 

A segment of the American population does think in the ways delineated by the original poster. Fortunately, not a majority, though. I do agree that Putin and Xi must be delighted when they look at our current situation. But the size of the damage will be known by January 20th, 2021. If Biden is normally inaugurated, then the forces of reason have prevailed, although bruised. If Trump somehow succeeds in stealing the election, then indeed it will be the end of the American democratic experiment.

 

How would not being a democracy weaken us but it doesn't weaken them?

Have you folks actually thought this through?

 

the electors are supposed to represent the people's vote, if an election is ever stolen via the electors, that is the end of democracy

 

never thought I would see you pushing communism.... I prefer our system

it's like trying to convert a nation to your religion....

why do we try to spread democracy throughout the world?

 

Thats not what the founders thought.

 

I think you posted in the wrong forum. You meant this for the humor section, right?

 

So you don't have an answer and how do you know we would become communist?

 

the founders never intended the electors to steal the election for the loser

if Trump planted Trump electors in the democrat party, that would be sad indeed

though it should be something to watch for in the future as it's a problem that may now give republican an idea how to cheat in the future

I do not though think Trump thought of that

 

with a dictator like Trump, we would

 

Oh just stop. Quit pretending that no elections are called correctly on the night of, or very shortly after. If there was a shred of evidence of shenanigans, it would have been abundantly clear by now. Biden won, Trump has nada, so pretending that proceeding as if otherwise was possible, is ignoring our traditions.

 

Sure they did or they wouldn't have put it in the constitution.

 

Why not a dictatorship then?

 

No one won. No one in America anyway.

I'm sure China is happier if Biden becomes president, and since Russia is one of China's main allies, I expect they also prefer Biden. Biden will lift the current tough sanctions on Russia which benefits Russia, and remove trade tariffs on China which benefits China.

Maybe Hunter will land another million dollar a year job as a family bonus.

 

Well, in that case it's hard to find anyone more suitable for the job than Beijing Joe. Of course the libs believe that endless lockdowns will strengthen the country beyond China's and Russia's wildest imagination.

 

It's interesting that the people who spent 4 years pushing Russia collusion hoax and bogus impeachment with the explicit goal of unseating a legally elected president are now hysterically demanding that we should trust them with the vote count.

 

Oh, and Biden is going to get back into the Iran Nuclear Deal. Iran, Russia and China are all buddies so America should just make all of them happy even if they all hate us. Seems to be "the plan".

 

Mysterious absence of Russian interference this cycle, even though they have tried to interfere in every one of our elections for at least the last 100 years. Apparently not this time. It's amazing.

 

Illegally spying on a political campaign and a sitting president is ignoring our traditions, impeaching a president based on totally bogus charges is ignoring our traditions, the media becoming a super PAC for a political campaign is ignoring our traditions, the media blackout and censorship of a presidential candidate's crimes is ignoring our traditions... Being asked to trust the vote count by the scum who's been doing all this for 4 years is insulting our intelligence.