Fox News: Sidney Powell refuses to prove claims

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    That is really funny. Thanks
     
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    It is not that she could realistically make the case it is that the accusation of widespread fraud in the 2020 election case cannot be made because it is bogus.

    If the voting machine tabulators were rigged nationwide why was the only red state to flip to blue was Georgia ?
     
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    Problem is that can anyone convince Trump that he lost?
     
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    I've noticed a difference of vocabulary about this issue, ever since FBI director Wray made his statement that he hasn't seen "any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election.”

    OK, but that's different from there being voter fraud in this election, which I think there clearly was. So when you say "widespread" I guess it depends on what you mean by that. Do you think there was any voter fraud at all?
     
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    Trump already knows he lost, he is just lashing out like a spoiled rich child right now, throwing his trumper tantrum
     
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    I think there are isolated incidents of voter fraud in every election. It's silly to think and expect that among 130 million people who voted, all of them were legitimate. You cannot possibly devise a system where every single vote is perfect.
     
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    OK
     
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    There could have been some isolated voter fraud scattered here and there. But and this is an important but none of it if there was any resulted in an impact on the presidential race or any race for the Senate or the House. There could have been fraud somewhere in the country involving a race for a local office. Could that affect the outcome of a local race such as a state house seat? Maybe.
     
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    Yes that is true.

    Any system can be gamed. I believe based on what I see at the VA that there likely is fraud at some level with some tiny or small percent of my felllow vets with claims for PTSD.

    Some small tiny portion of Social Security disability claims may also have been obtained fraudulently.
     
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    It's refreshing to see Fox act like an actual news source and not a right wing propaganda machine for once. It's not very often you see Tucker Carlson's staff actually asked for evidence of a far tight.conspiracy theory. They usually take the existence of the conspiracy theory itself as evidence of its truth.

    Maybe this is a sign that The producers at Fox are starting to actually care about being in news venue.
     
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    Not inept, huh? Hahahahaha
    Rudy Giuliani’s epic rant in his latest wild news conference about suspicious voting in Michigan was based on a glaring mistake: President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer was complaining about vote counts in Minnesota districts, not in Michigan.
    That obliterated Giuliani’s claims Thursday of discrepancies in district populations and suspiciously large voter turnouts. The figures mangled overvote percentages by comparing the number of expected district votes in one state to the populations of completely unrelated districts in another state.

    In Michigan and Wisconsin, we have overvotes in numerous precincts of 150%, 200% and 300%,” Giuliani gloated in one of his imagined “gotcha” moments.
    The man in charge of Trump’s assault on election results also argued that there were more votes than voters in some districts — again, because he confused the states.
     
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    Beginning to see the light, aren't you.
     
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    Well I think I already said something similar. Powell's case isn't about the more traditional voter fraud, which pretty obviously did happen: https://hereistheevidence.com/

    Her case is about voting machines changing votes on a massive scale. That is what I'm skeptical of. Drawing connections about who owns what company doesn't make the case that the machines can and (crucially) did change votes. If she actually goes to court and has real evidence to prove who and how, I may change my mind on that, but so far she's not presented any evidence, and I'm skeptical she has any.
     
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    It's pretty clear that you are not a regular viewer of Tucker's show, but that seems par for the course for him. That's one of the things I enjoy about his show is that he's willing to go against the tide if the evidence and data is not there.
     
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    I'm simply following the available evidence, as I've always done. I'm not having a mystical experience.
     
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    Now we know who's holding your hand.
     
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    I've no idea what that means.
     
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    Sidney Powell the supporter of QAnon? That Sidney Powell?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ey-powell-is-longtime-qanon-supporter-2020-11

    The lawyer who defended the confessed felon Michael Flynn? That lunatic?

    "It was when her cause came to align with Trump's and Flynn's plight as targets of Mueller's probe that she worked her way into a deep state-hating, MAGA-loving network that landed her a high-profile client," the outlet said.

    Even before representing Flynn, she had expressed support for QAnon, which groundlessly alleges that a Satanic cabal of child-abusing Democrats and Hollywood stars secretly manipulates world events. The conspiracy theory is embraced by a large swath of Trump supporters and even some GOP lawmakers."

    The Traitor-in-Chief is being represented in frivolous, baseless lawsuits is his attempt to overturn the results of the election by a corrupt huckster and a lunatic. How did we come to this?
     
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    Of course she will never present evidence. Why ? There is 't any because the tabulator machines were not hacked and they did not change votes on a massive scale. Or even on a minor one. Basic common sense and logic tells us that if there were 2.7 M or whatever millions is the favorite conspiracy figure is got changed those offects would have been noticed. Now let's look at the targeting of where the changed votes routines needed to be installed to make a diferrence. It would be the northern iron belt, PA, FL, Ohio. The target footprint would be on 7 states. Conspiratists can say that it occurred across the country.
    Those who believe that need to think critically about that. If the mythical vote changing occurred in say AL, Miss, LA, AR, Tenn., SC, Texas, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, North , South Dakota.... don't you think it would have been blatant.

    So back to my contention the 2.7 votes allegedly changed would have to have logically been in the states that Biden flipped. Did anyone notice that in the states that Biden flipped he flipped them by a relatively small margin. If 2.7 million votes were changed in 6-7 states. Those states would have been won by Biden in landslide proportions.
    Divide 2.7m by 7 (number of states targeted) it would result in an average of 386,000 extra votes for Biden per state. Look at the results and you will see that the numbers did not show any such a blip. The actual margin that Biden won by in all of the flipped state is maybe 200,000. Even if I assume that the spread totaled 250,000 The average spread is 36,000 per flipped state.

    I have not even come up with a logical explanation of how the other Trump lie of deleted votes.

    I probably should put together a white paper to logically proove that it is not logical that the tabulators changed votes.

    So you are correct tat she has no proof because I say the "proof" does not exist because the allegation of changed votes never happened.
     
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    Thanks for posting! This is fantastic! Poor Rudy has made himself ridiculous and once and for all irrelevant!
     
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    I don’t know who is more ridiculous....Rudy or the people who keep defending him.
     
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    Yes, that is debatable indeed.
     
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    Yes, those guys were republicans.
     
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    Yeah, that meme will hold up in court.

    Right.
     
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    Of course. There are always simple logical explanations to all conspiracy theories. The lunar flag "waving" being classic. At least that conspiracy had people saying "Hmmm..."

    But this is bizzaro world we're dealing with. I don't need any logic to discard the thought of millions of votes being magically switched by an Antifa supporting leftist voting machine company, in conspiracy with a South American radical leftist software company created by somebody, sumptin sumptin, Hugo Chavez, and all the votes went to Germany. We got the server. (The Kenyan birth certificate is no doubt being delivered by courier as we speak. As are Hunter's Hard Drives © 2020 BBMacI )

    Nah. I don't no stinkin' logic to debunk that.
     
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