Who will swallow the Corona virus debt? The rich or the poor?

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  1. cristiansoldier

    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    As always it will be the young and future generations.
     
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    the consumers got little choice Democrat policies ran businesses off shore except for the mom and pops and the sandwich shops.
     
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    fake news..... greedy corps sent jobs off shore

    the left wants to protect American jobs, the right wants no part of that, they support more foreign outsourcing and more foreign imports

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    Biden wants corporate cash. Little evidence suggests that he gives so much as a tinker's dam how they get the cash they pay him. You want to see who Biden is look at who his picks are. Hell even AOC is starting to figure out she got suckered.
     
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    you mean Biden wants the tax rates to go back to what they were under Reagan?

    won't matter anyways, republicans in the Senate hated Reagan and would never support that
     
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    Nope I mean you raise taxes the big boys will just move more crap overseas just like they always hsve. The mom and pops and sandwich shops will wind up footing the bill and a lot of them will die and you'll wind up with less than you had. By the way you know what happened to mist if the Reps that hated Reagan? Same thing happen to Reagan...
     
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    Post retirement wages don't keep up. Inflation hurts retirees in a very real way. Inflation also hurts the value of savings for those still earning wages. There is nothing good about inflation. Since we aren't likely to return to gold based currency, the government simply has to control itself with the spending.
     
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    The same people who have swallowed the debt of the Global War Of Terror and the CARES Act from Operation Covid.
     
  9. dairyair

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    no no no. Give corps tax breaks automatically creates jobs. What do you think they do with extra money and no more demand
     
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    You know. Bush cut taxes. trump cut taxes. Wages did not go up. Debt went up. Recession ensued.
    History shows it
     
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    Why vote for anyone in either party?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I voted LP so my conscience is clear.
     
  13. dairyair

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    Why? If the competition doesn't raise prices on their goods. That business is likely to earn more market share.
    Raising taxes on business does not mean less pay or jobs for workers.
    Supply and demand dictate prices and wages and number of employees.
     
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    Cause of the greedy baby boomers.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a formulaic process for voting in my own best interest. Variables 1 and 2 are the rights to self defense and freedom of expression, in that order. Most often I can choose a candidate based entirely on variable 1, and I'm sure you can guess which party that candidate will usually belong to.

    I would love (LOVE!!) to have a wider field of candidates to vote for across different parties, but the damnable R's keep turning out as the only ones that are willing to let us maintain the opportunity to shoot our way out of the hell they're trying to drag us into. The D's and G's and I's and even the L's all want to drag us there while burning down our only bridge back.
     
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    Actually. No. I don't.
    At least driven by actions.

    I am in woods hunting deer at moment. I have zero fear of any party stopping me from hunting or self defense.
    I don't buy the NRA BS.
     
  17. Greatest I am

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    That will hurt the poor and middle class harder than the rich who can claim the loss in monetary value on their taxes.

    The rich can afford the tax lawyers that help them doge paying taxes with the rules they themselves, through their bought and paid for political lackeys, have put into the tax code.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    I agree with this bit.

    We live in a closed system, in terms of our socio economic demographic pyramid, and I do not see why we would not or could adjust our wealth within our demography to a more equitable shape, without anyone below the poverty line.

    Locking our pyramid into a desired shape would stabilize the economy and that prospers all of us.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    I'm not trying to shape pyramids. I am trying to end the process of inflating our currency.
     
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    Indeed. We find it easier to pass our debts to our children. Nice parents.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    The NRA would've eventually compromised away the 2A. But they're pretty much done anyway.

    Who would you vote for to protect your right to self defense?
     
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    Inflation isn't deductible in tax returns.

    They don't dodge paying taxes. They take advantage of the tax code legally.
     
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    Thanks for the bump, but a reply would have been better.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    True.

    This is fitting when you have no minimum income law.

    We have to care for the poor somehow, or they will either die or turn to other ways if living, which will likely cost tax payers even more.

    I E. A poor on the dole is cheaper for us than a poor person who turns to crime and prison, which costs us a hell of a lot more.

    In the U.S., for instance, jailing blacks has become a make work project by your private and mostly white prison systems. This happens in even more progressive countries. Canada, for instance, as applied to our native population which is over represented in our jails.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Never, and you paint an ugly picture.

    We all live in hierarchical socioeconomic demographies, and that is the best way to keep things.

    The communism you speak of will always be rejected. Thank god.

    I do not mind equality of opportunity and law, but do not like equality of outcome, as we are not equal in talents.

    Regards
    DL
     
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