Trump Reportedly Considering Launching 2024 Campaign During Biden’s Inauguration

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Totally.

    He would Lose even worse.
     
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    If Trump runs again in 2024, he will lose by a BIGGER margin than he lost in 2020. Demographics alone will cause it (4 more years of youngsters coming of voting age, 4 more years of old conservative voters croaking). More perspective, more hindsight, MORE people won't want to go back to the chaotic 2016-2020 years, and his cult of personality will fade (like Bernie's did, with much lower voting total in 2020 as compared to 2016). Republicans with presidential ambitions will do their best to undermine him in the next four years. And the 80 million people who came out of the woodwork to kick him out of the White House are not going anywhere, and will come back to vote for whoever his opponent is, if he dares to run again. Every one of the 80 million will think "I faced a pandemic to get this clown down, and I'll get him to stay down." Since the fiasco of low turnover in 2016, the Dems and Dem-leaning independents have learned their lesson: that they do need to show up and vote, if they want to keep a fascist like Trump down.

    Once he realizes that he will lose by an even bigger margin, and given that what he hates and fears the most is to be called a loser, I think he ultimately won't run.
    But for now he will pretend he will, just for revenge, just to stay relevant, just to screw anybody else who might want to run from the GOP out of spite, just to fundraise and pay off his campaign debts, and just to bother the guy who beat him.
    Other factors are age, health, and being busy with defending himself against a large number of lawsuits and New York State prosecutors coming after him once he loses presidential immunity.

    No, this picture shows it:

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  3. Independent4ever

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    I would not be so sure of that, but I just want him gone for now. Will worry about 2024 when it comes
     
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    Nope.
    He is powerful now... he won't be as powerful in 2024. He will be old news.
     
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    Don't agree - the cult is not going away
     
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    Exactly.

    The whole game is going to be This:

    Any potential candidate (and any Republican, period) is going to have to genuflect and kiss his ring, until he decides about 2024.

    At that point, if he so chooses, he will handpick the nominee (through his endorsement).
     
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    If he does go the Kingmaker route, the "candidate" will have rallies where he gets to speak for 2 minutes, before Trump takes over to get the adulation he desperately needs
     
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    Very True, Indy.

    It is a long way off until 2024.

    I am just going to bask in the glow of being on the WINNING side (to get rid of that Unqualified MORON).
     
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    Exactly.

    Welcome to the 2022 Midterms.
     
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    Cults fade.
    Look at Bernie in 2016 and Bernie in 2020.
     
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    All hail the nominee

    BATBOY

    with Q as his running mate
     
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    Cult of Bernie wasn't anything near what Trump has
     
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    Or he will be old, infirm, with a series of mini-strokes, and under heavy prosecution by New York State DAs.
     
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    But it's still an example of how cults fade.

    Trump lost 2020 by more than 6 million votes.

    His cult won't get any STRONGER. If anything, attrition and loss of interest will make it WEAKER. And not many of the 80 MILLION Americans who came out of the woodwork to kick him out will want to go BACK to the chaos of 2016-2020.

    Mark my words, if he runs, he will lose by a BIGGER margin.

    He only won 2016 because he ran against an even more unpopular candidate. When he faced a regular candidate, although old and passed his prime, he lost by 6 million popular votes and 306 electoral college votes. This won't get any better for him in 2024.

    If anything, it will get worse. The most obvious factor, Trump did extremely poorly with young voters in 2020, much worse than he did with the same demographic in 2016. His odious persona alienated them. And about 4 million people turn 18 every year. This means that in 2024 16 million additional young Americans will be of voting age. A bit less than 3 million people die every year, most of them, old (the most conservative group). That's adding 16 million potentially against him and subtracting 12 million potentially for him... that is, that's a 28 million difference.

    Will all the youngsters vote against him or even show up to vote? No. Will all the dead voters be Trump voters? No. But more often than not, that will be the case. Let's even cut this down by dividing it by 4, to be conservative: that's still 7 million, to be added to the 6 million difference in favor of his opponent. So, that would represent 13 million. We can cut this down even more to be on the safe side: say, 10 to 12 million.

    He already lost 2020 by 6 million votes. That INCREASED from 2016 when he lost the popular vote by a bit less than 3 million votes. Just if the trend continues, he will lose by 9 million votes in 2024. I think, by more than that, given that many of the youngster who will come of voting age will remember the Trump years, the horrible 2020 with the pandemic, his stance against the environment, etc.

    I hereby predict that if Trump runs in 2024 he will lose by at least 10 to 12 million votes.
     
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    Nobody ever confused Trump with the picture of health.

    Like that totally absurd sham "physical", when Trump's weight was given as 239...
    ...when everybody knew that he was pushin' 3 bills.
     
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    I like it. :salute:
     
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    It all depends on how the economy is doing then and what is happening with the debt, the markets, unemployment rate, interest rates, and trade and military security issues. If Biden screws up the economy the next four years the people will remember the Trump pre covid economy and bring him back to bring that back.
     
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    Trump will be in jail until he dies. He may also be our first convict President. Only in America.
     
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    Hopefully, Such a Sentence would also include a Lifetime Social Media Ban.
     
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    No he won’t. We don’t go around prosecuting the former administration when a new regime comes to power in America. It’s all part of that peaceful transfer of power thing we have here. If Trump is prosecuted we who supported him will make governing this country a living hell for the new regime, making it like herding cats as we openly defy his every act. The fabric of American political process would be torn asunder by a political prosecution of a former President. Then Biden will have to hope to God that a Republican doesn’t become president during the rest of his natural life upon leaving office for fear of a revenge prosecution over Ukraine or some other matter. Prosecution of former Presidents is not a good idea and to my knowledge has yet to be done.
     
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    Who cares? Please don’t waste your time obsessing about a loser.
    Let’s focus on a new agenda, not keep arguing with idiots or wrestling with pigs. They want you to remain at their level.
    I can guarantee you that trump is now a has been and will never fool enough people again to make a difference.
    The greedy amoral bastards that did his bidding in Congress will soon turn on him as they fight for leadership of the repubs and his cult will shrink because nobody respects a loser who acts like trump.
    Nobody wants a rerun of the past four years and many are now ashamed that they enabled it.
     
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    Exactly, except for the last sentence. As of now, 74 million people are still being fooled (thankfully 80 million are not). But as time goes by, your last sentence will become true as well.
     
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    I think trump running in 2024 will hurt any other potential R candidate. If another candidate wins the nomination, trump will relentlessly trash that candidate.

    I also think trump launching his candidacy during Biden’s inauguration will be trump’s way of trying to stay in the spotlight. Pull attention away from Biden and towards himself. Because for trump, being ignored is a fate worse than death. He has a pathological need for attention.
     
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    IF (Repeat IF) Trump Runs in 2024, the Nomination is his.

    It would be a Fool's Errand (setting money on fire) to even attempt to oppose him in the Primary.
     
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    This from people who based their whole first campaign on wanting to incarcerate a blameless woman just for daring to oppose the most criminal President in our history. It's one thing to have an unproven skeleton or two in your past and quite another to rival John Gotti as a crime boss. Our President was never intended to be a sacrosanct figure beyond reproach or any sort of accountability forever. That's how you get Mexico or Russia, where the crime families have taken over completely.

    A characteristic of the USA separating us from Latin America is that we have a powerful and robust yet just and merciful set of mechanisms for enforcing our laws on everyone. Above all, we have a deep tradition of respect for the law that holds even the highest among us accountable for our actions

    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Lock him up.
     
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