Let's face the facts: Trump is not lying about election fraud

Rumors are a specialty of the MSM. The internet however is beyond the media's control where all manner of information exists and for the intellectually honest and discerning a place where truth may be found. Some people just enjoy being lied to and cling to the MSM's narrative. The sheer volume of fraud allegations suggests there is at the least, merit enough to investigate. On the matter of proof there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence enough to negate actual material evidence to go forward but there is also enough material evidence to tie it all together. If you think this is a done deal you are going to be disappointed.

 

Lots of election laws broken in these states.

 

The opposite is true.

 

Maybe they just don't have the proper tinfoil hat.

 

Name a few.

 

I suggest that Trump is so successful at scamming because he believes what he's saying, not because he's brilliant. Lying would entail (figuratively) keeping two sets of books in his head; so much easier to believe whatever it is that makes him the hero/victim.

Yes, he was hedging his bet in both 2016 and 2020 with his clairvoyant prediction of fraud, but I think he psychologically needs to believe it. This is consistent with Mary Trump's description of the man.

 

No, it doesn't make me feel good; I'd like it to be possible to verify everything was above board. If they haven't kept them, then conspiracy theorists like you will irrationally regard this as proof of fraud. You don't seem to grasp the irrationality of conspiracy theories: you jump to conclusions, and fit all new facts into the theory, never entertaining the possibility your initial theory may have been wrong. I wish I could help you to be more rational, but you don't seem to want to confront the problem.

 

I fully understand that Trump has done some things that appeal to Republicans, and I have no quarrel with that. But doing the things that all Republicans like doesn't prove he has insightful judgment.

Now that I've commented on your tangent, how about addressing something I actually said?

 

Dirty Donald is a whiney little bitch that does absolutely nothing besides lying, it is the one thing in life he has perfected LYING !!!!!

 

So, you are here to have people align with your views, or you dismiss it. Got it.

 

You have no basis for using the phrase, "conspiracy theory".

There are issues that need resolved.

 

I think you actually believe everything you have written here but you say Trump's belief is an absurdity. How did you arrive at that conclusion, do you have access to more information than the president? Do you really believe that Americans don't have the right to closely examine every aspect of the counting? Are you aware that there are many instances where poll watchers were denied that right? Do you believe that our election process and officials are incorruptible or that Democrats are beyond reproach?

 

I can't disagree with any of the above, it's difficult to figure out what goes on in that scattered brain of his. One indicator that might lend some truth to your theory was his question about injecting disinfectant to kill the virus. He likely believed it would be a proper course of treatment but he's too ridiculously stupid and ignorant to figure out it would kill the host. And I'm pretty sure he actually believes he knows more about everything under the sun than everyone else including experts. He is that delusional.

 

LOL, hundreds of witnesses.

 

What did they witness? Did they actually see things that are indisputably fraudulent, or did they jump to conclusions, or just raise suspicions, about things they didn't understand? Since I've seen very few of these, I don't have the answer. But unless you've seen them, you don't know either. If you know where these can be seen, I'd love to see them.

 

Ah, yes, those witnesses, many of whom don't even claim they've witnessed voter fraud and whose affidavits were collected through a method that Trump's own legal team admitted resulted in spam and lies. Those "witnesses"?

 

In those states in person votes are tabulated FIRST and then the mail in ballots are tabulated. Perhaps great minds can figure out how that might make the numbers move massively in Biden's favor. It ain't rocket surgery.

 

And, at least in PA (not sure about the others) Dems tried getting them to sort the mail-in votes early. Republicans said no.

 

Trump knows he is lying, he is hoping people believe his lies

it's no different than his lying about his crowd size

just one more lie on the pile of lies

 

I'm increasingly worried that he may not actually know the difference. I recently saw a deposition where he seemed genuinely confused over the very concept of a lie, telling the opposing attorney "You could say we had lunch together today . . . that wouldn't be a lie," even though they hadn't had lunch together. I'm beginning to think he struggles with the basic concept of what words like "lie" and "truth" mean.

 

You said he is dangerous. I essentially said he had four years to exhibit that, choosing instead the opposite. Trump has improved everything he has touched...military, our borders, wars, Mideast, trade, economy, conservation. In short, your post isn't based on reality. And your pretense at charity, saying that Trump isn't so much a liar as just plain stupid and dangerous, can hardly be called generous when it is simply self serving robbery.

 

yeah but those witnesses were the ones that trump's brilliant legal team couldn't "prove" were false, henceforth were true. That's how it works, don't you know?

 

He's made trade worse (and can't even grasp the basics of how trade works). The only "improvements" he made to the economy were things that were already part of a pre-existing trend. He hasn't exactly been the best at conservation of any kind.

As potentially the single greatest source of misinformation about the pandemic and the election, he's doing plenty of damage on the way out, and he's greatly expanded the powers of the Executive branch in ways that hopefully Republicans will change their tune on now that there will be a Dem in office. He was uniquely unqualified. Good riddance.

 

funny how he couldn't improve the voting system or his intell gathering or prevent so many evil democratic/RINO/deep state conspiracies from screwing him at every turn.

Course being delusional about Trumpian achievements is par for the course.

 

Easy, don’t allow transparency.