Fox News says Pro Trump electors should still change the vote

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Yes, she was. And now the president is.
    I guess if we got back to your posts will find you totally supportive of it?
     
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  2. squidward

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    When the executive branch publically announces that it is overriding state election law, there's plenty of cause to claim they did exactly that.

    So, are you game or do you wish to hide the ballots, machines, logs, etc.?
    One could prove you correct.
    The other could get you a smack down.
    Your preference?
     
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    WON'T Happen...

    Faux News is DREAMING...

    That entire scenario has been discredited 1000x over and is a complete non-starter.
     
  4. Ikari

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    Which is pretty much what Trump is doing. He's the executive branch and has been suing and throwing unfounded accusations to undermine State's election results.
     
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    Respectful americans don't advocate overriding state election law.
    Illegal ballots are not "Americans" and they "rejected" nothing.

    But, a quick forensic audit of the ballots, machines, logs, etc., will help you prove that it really was "americans" and not illegal ballots
    You game?
     
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  6. Daniel Light

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    I have no problem with voting machines being checked and recounts ... problem is that you will just move the goal-post again and again and
    not accept their findings anyway. The only thing that you will find acceptable is a Trump win.
     
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    if republican electors vote along party lines instead of voter lines, it means they won fair and square.

    'stealing the election' is not possible in a democracy.
     
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    There will be no goal post to move once the audit is complete.
    "You will just" is speculation
     
  9. Ikari

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    No, it means that they went counter to the vote from the People and voted along party lines, not what the People wanted. It's not a "fair and square" as much as it is backroom wheeling and dealing.
     
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    He is not the exutive branch of any state.
    The state executive branches are the ones who violated state law.

    So, are you ready to foresically audit and prove that they didn't?
     
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    Just following recent history. Trump dudes wanted recounts in Georgia and Wisconsin so they had recounts. Now, the same Trump
    dudes are saying the recounts were worthless because the votes were frauds. So when the machines are checked and no problems are found, they
    will just say the machines were reprogramed after the election ... it's not speculation to claim you will move the goalpost.
     
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    All that stuff has ALREADY been done (to the extent it was possible).
     
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    The other issue here is that we have had recounts already and the recounts have upheld the original tallies. Hell, GA did a hand recount of paper ballots and it didn't deviate significantly from the original count. So we've already done this "audit".
    They will move the goal posts and then start claiming that these ballots are somehow "illegal". There will always be another excuse for Trump sycophants.
     
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    Perhaps you've been asleep.
    State executive and judicial branch members openly overrode established state election laws.
    That makes those ballots illegal.
    Not difficult
     
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    a forensic audit would take too long, nancy pelosi would be President during the wait.
     
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    Electors asking for a briefing is no where near what is happening today. Fox News, and the right wing in this country, are literally asking that the peoples vote be denied and that they should INSTALL Trump. Thats a VERY dangerous road

    Faithless electors existed then, and I was against it then, as I am today. Those are state laws, not federal ones. And if you read your own post, the states where they tried to actually be faithless had laws against it, so the system actually worked there.

    There are currently 4 states that do not bind their electors to the to vote. So you support abolishing the EC ? I do ! The NPVIC is a gaining traction, and with this debacle, may actually come to fruition before the next election
     
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    You said the executive branch, not State Executive Branches. Trump is the Federal executive branch. He has been throwing out unfounded allegations of fraud. Every time one of his cases gets to court, it get thrown out because there is no evidence to back it up. He's doing all he can to undermine the results of a fair and free election because he lost, he's a baby and cannot stand losing. So he'll throw the entire Republic under the bus to satisfy his own ego. It's disgusting, really. It's a fundamental attack on America, on a fundamental pillar of our Republic.
    The election happened, there are absolutely no evidence of massive fraud on the level necessary to swing election results. We'll have to put up with Biden for 4 years, it sucks, but that is the result of our election and for the sake of the Republic we have to move on.
     
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    Which law was broken ? Be specific
     
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    There were no forensic audits of ballots.
    Legal ballots can be easily reconciled to voter rolls. Ballots in disagreement with state law are illegal.

    Do you have an issue with legal ballots, ballots cast according to state law?
     
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    Tell it to the court.

    Oh that's right, they already did and The Court laughed at them.
     
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    We're not BLM or Antifa
     
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    YES, LETS AUDIT THE VOTES.

    Show the illegal ballots. Go ahead, we can wait......
     
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    OK, then the states legislatures will give the smackdown.

    Open defiance of state election law invalidates ballots
     
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    I have no problem with votes being checked.

    I do have problems with Trump dudes reposting internet rumors as facts.
    And I know that no matter the audits or recounts, you will move the goalposts and claim fraud. That is an absolute truth.
     
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    There is a constitutional remedy for that.
     

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