The Emerging Biden Administration

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  1. Richard Franks

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    Biden will have a team that can beat Trump hands down.
     
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    All I'll say is that Biden will do better than Trump.
     
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    At what, checkers?
     
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    In what way? What is the biggest improvement you expect for the country. Don't give me the old "he'll be honest and true blue" run around, what specific action will he take that makes you say THAT's my guy?
     
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    I'm really looking forward to a return of Obama's punishment of the fuel industry with big oil taxes which made gasoline triple in price for consumers.

    The blessing of widespread Critical Race Theory where all white people, not just conservatives, are blamed for systemic racism will also be fun.

    Oh, and the incoming millions of "extra" migrants each month, whom we have no housing starts planned for, will be an American dream come true, especially for school teachers in border states. I hope my school taxes double or triple and rents go up for renters so landlords can cover some of the cost.

    Reversal of Trump's tax reduction will be fabulous since corporations will have to pay more. They'll cut jobs and pass any additional burdens to the end consumers of their products, before they decide to just build their next plant in China or Mexico. I can't wait to pay more for every single thing!

    It's going to be great! You just wait and see.
     
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    Millions of Americans lost their unemployment coverage on Saturday as President Trump resisted signing a sweeping $900 billion aid package until lawmakers more than tripled the size of relief checks, putting the fate of the measure in limbo.

    This is terrible. These people that have no jobs and now have no unemployment. What do they do? There will be some that will be homeless for a long time to come and would have to go to a soup kitchen for their meals or go without. There will be those that call home for the holidays in a cardboard box or in a garbage can and that's no place to spend the holidays. It won't be long until Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the other new cabinet take over and we can hardly wait can we?
    I don't understand
    You'll have to wait and see what happens like the rest of us.
     
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    I asked you what you believe will happen, what do you expect to justify your claims of Biden being better. Surely there was some reason you chose Biden. What will joe be better at?
     
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    The general restoration of Obamacare, or at least that part of it that protected people with pre-existing conditions

    Our return to the Paris Accords

    Our return to the WHO

    For Starters
     
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    I don't believe that preexisting part has been canceled.
     
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    I think that cancellation was being blocked by the courts, wasn't it?

    In any case, I think that a new and reinforced Healthcare Plan based on Obamacare will be one of the Biden Administration's first major accomplishments. I hope it will be a predecessor to a Single Payer system but that will depend on many other things
     
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    What reinforcements and improvements do you expect from Biden?
     
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    I don't think you can define Trump's accomplishments and therefore you have no idea where 'Biden will best him. I have asked you for some definition and you don't seem to have anything in mind other than he ain't Trump.
     
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    I think he will address most of the complaints that were directed at Obamacare during the Trump Administration. It's a very complicated plan and I don't know the specifics but I am reasonably confident they will be handled in a way far more equitably than they would have been under Trump and we will probably transition to a Single Payer system before Biden's first term is over.
     
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    The main drawback to Obamacare is the cost. The policies that actually pay are too expensive which is why there are millions of Americans with no insurance. I have Medicare and I think the premium is $175 per month and I have BCBS supplemental through my retirement plan. I pay $500 per month for myself and my wife so that's $850 per month for the two of us. There is no free lunch and Biden, Harris and Pelosi can't change that.
     
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    OK! What I think what would probably happen is that the COVID 19 will finally be under control, Unemployment benefits will resume again, and the Trump era will be over. You see Trump is like a spoiled brat wanting hi way all the time and Majority couldn't take his childish behavior and the majority voted Trump out and Trump is acting childish as may or may not know. Biden is in or will be in and Trump is out. simple as that.
     
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    I don't recognize what good Trump has done for us. All Trump cared about was himself and many of us don't want that. Do you know what good Trump did during his time as President?
     
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    I second the motion. I think Obama was a better President than Trump. and if anyone asks in what way? Check the records for yourself.
     
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    Covid was always going to diminish, Biden won't have any more to do with that than Trump would. We could have had a second round of relief and nobody would have missed a check but Nancy and Chuck blocked it so Trump wouldn't get credit for it. Same with this current failure to pass a bill. With Trump on his way out it seemed a safe bet to ignore his requests and stack the bill like they wanted and so they did. Turns out Trump has a tooth or two left. Really the only thing both sides really seem to agree on is they don't want to give another round of stimulus checks to all of us.
     
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    I know what I approved of. He relaxed regulations on oil and gas production and that had a direct effect on my family. He slowed the flow of the northward migration like he said he would. He got out of that crazy global warming agreement and our unbalanced trade agreements, mainly with China, by imposing tariffs to even the field for our manufacturers.. He did away with the penalty for not having health insurance. He recently brokered a peace agreement between Israel and a couple of her Arab neighbors and didn't start any wars.
     
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    Amazing how many people are still willing to trade their freedom for a little security and vote their unending hope and trust in bigger government.

    Congress just proved this year that they are not in Washington to provide citizens with security, as evidenced by the pittance of Covid relief dollars. They simultaneously proved that they are more than happy to remove our freedoms and smash peoples' livelihoods and incomes.
     
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    Optimism about delivering long-sought COVID-19 relief is building on Capitol Hill after additional rank-and-file lawmakers voiced support for a bipartisan, middle-of-the-road plan taking shape in the Senate and as top congressional leaders connected on the topic for the first time in months.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — frequent rivals but proven dealmakers — spoke on the phone Thursday, a conversation that came the day after Pelosi signaled a willingness to make major concessions in search of a COVID rescue package in the $1 trillion range.

    Pelosi’s spokesman announced the telephone conversation, tweeting that it was “about their shared commitment to completing an omnibus and COVID relief as soon as possible.”

    “We had a good conversation. I think we’re both interested in getting an outcome, both on the omnibus and on a coronavirus package,” McConnell said.
    Relaxing oil and Gas production and easing restrictions the Obama put on, Obama had good reasons on what he did. When Latinos' tried crossed the border, He put the children in cages and sent the parents home, Trump really screwed thing up if you can see that.
     
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    The Oil and Gas industry has not done well under Trump.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/27/trump-oil-gas-industry-432722

    You have parents of 545 children separated at the border still haven't been found and having children seperated from their parents and the parents have to go back where they came from without the children. Is that the right thing to do? Maybe you might think so but I think of it is wrong and Trump was wrong when he did this.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/21/donald-trump-immigration-parents-children-separated/

    Trump screwed us big time and if anyone would think that he was a great President, How do you explain he was voted out?

    One more time Trump screwed us and is selfish toward us all and that's true.
     
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    Maybe there is no free lunch but do we have to continue paying a price that should get us caviar and truffles while being handed a rotten Big Mac? We pay much more for health care than does any other country and we get much less, we should not tolerate that.
     
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    As far as I'm aware Obama nor any of the other architects of his health scheme promised a 'free lunch'. What they promised was more extensive coverage overall & cheaper per capita health care costs. Big difference.

    By all means scrap Obamacare - but only if you can come up with better model and by 'better' I mean one that delivers similar coverage at lower cost (or greater coverage at the same cost - take your pick).

    The biggest problem opponents of Obama care seem to face is that while they are ALL opposed to the scheme he introduced in my experience none of them have come up with a better alternative i.e. at least not one they have costed for comparison. And that's the problem.

    If the US Health care system pre-Obamacare (and probably after) were a car no one would by it. Oh they might walk onto the lot and kick the tires. But as soon as they saw the annual high service fees, the terrible fuel economy and all the features that cost 'extra' compared to other models they'd walk across the street and buy one of those fancy European models. Or in other words side by side the US system is beaten on almost every measure by every other modern Western Health care system on the planet. There may be exceptions but they are few and far between.
     
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    In Joe's case it would be in the driver's seat.
     

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