In Chicago, 4,115 people have been shot this year. That is 1,412 more than 2019.

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Transport the people of Detroit, New Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore and St. Louis to Australia and watch your numbers climb and ours go down. Are you up for that?
     
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    Really? Here is what you should have looked up and posted. Of course I've already posted the trends but I know that some people don't understand graphs.
    From FBI Crime Statistics:
    2016 (Before Trump in case you can't do math)
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016

    372.6 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants, and the property crime rate was 2,487.0 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants. The violent crime rate rose 3.1 percent compared with the 2014 rate, and the property crime rate declined 3.4 percent.

    2019 (After Trump)
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019

    For the third consecutive year, the estimated number of violent crimes in the nation decreased when compared with the previous year’s statistics, according to FBI figures released today. In 2019, violent crime was down 0.5% from the 2018 number. Property crimes also dropped 4.1%, marking the 17th consecutive year the collective estimates for these offenses declined.

    The 2019 statistics show the estimated rate of violent crime was 366.7 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants, and the estimated rate of property crime was 2,109.9 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants. The violent crime rate fell 1.0% when compared with the 2018 rate; the property crime rate declined 4.5%.

    2020 has not been released yet but preliminary data from the first half is also down from 2019.
    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...minary-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2020

    Are you still saying that Trump is responsible for the good?
     
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    I just eyeballed your demographics, you don’t seem to have very many hyphenated heritages in your land. The ones in ours like to murder people.
     
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    Trump is not in control of individual cities. If he goes in there without cooperation of the city; the bitch would be about presidential overreach.

    Trump is not to blame for every bad that happens in the USA. Like I said; I over-salted my steak a couple of days ago. Not Trump's fault, anymore than he is to blame for the shithole that Chicago has been for 40 years.

    Let's put the blame where it belongs. Corrupt mayors of Chicago have been corrupt forever. If Chicago wants to fix things; they need new leadership.

    I left Illinois; it's about as corrupt as it can be. I lived in the suburbs. This was a constant topic of conversation. Chicago can't find a good QB, and they can't find a mayor with actual ideas on how to make it better.
     
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    My comment didn't have anything to do with black and Hispanic cops shooting "white people"!

    Or black and Hispanic cops would shoot black people, or any people more often than white cops do.

    Interesting that you would choose to make such a claim in response to my statement.

    Feeling guilty?
     
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    City----------------Mayor---------------Party---------Violent Crime/100k people
    East St. Louis, IL Robert Eastern III, (D) 2828
    St. Louis, MO Lyda Krewson (D) 1913
    Chester, PA, Thaddeus Kirkland (D) 1571
    Albuquerque, NM Tim Keller (D) 1112
    Chicago, IL Lori Lightfoot (D) 1106
    New Orleans, LA Latoya Cantrell (D) 1070
    Gary, I Jerome Prince (D) 601

    These are just some that I knew were near the top. Should we go on until we find a (R) mayor?
    https://news.lee.net/news/national/..."operator":"contains"}]&view_45_per_page=1000
     
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    You brought race into this, not me.
     
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    Democrats have not cared about the American people since the Kennedy's. Facts proven over and over again.
     
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    Thats Trumps fault too right? Gotta be. The trolling in this thread is pretty glorious. Trump is the most incompetent genius we’ve ever seen because in the eyes of Leftists, he is incapable of accomplishing anything while being in control of everything. A god among men.
     
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    Did I say it was trumps fault? How could it be? ScoMo (Scott Morrison Aus Pm) is much closer and far more convenient to blame . Basically his arse is within reaching distance.
     
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    How low can the intellectual dishonest sink? You really just said that? Seriously, you honestly think shooting deaths in cities that Trump has literal ZERO control over are his fault. Cities he has offered help to and they REFUSED!!! Literally ZERO ability to have any impact at all. Just let us know so we can tell if it’s just typical trolling or early onset dementia:)
     
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    You said it’s Trumps America and he is responsible for all the good and the bad. Wow.
     
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    He has the same degree of control that John Howard had in Australia in 1996

    The whole of Australia had all of 229 gun deaths in 2019 - that was outrageously high!

    For us
     
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    And in Australia ScoMo is also responsible for the good and the bad

    Errrr can I recommend you go back and actually read the posts you are quoting because you are beginning not to make sense
     
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    Increased Taxes don't make a city more desirable, lack of crime does.
     
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    Agreed. But the conversation I was having was about the investment of money to achieve the decrease in crime. Pension money was thrown out as a suggestion and I preferred taxation. How else would you suggest funding the overhaul?
     
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    It was Trump’s fault if the salt you applied to the steak was an ingredient in the ketchup! :)
     
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    I married a Chicago girl. She was born, raised and lived much of her life there until she went elsewhere with me. She doesn't miss Chicago at all. She doesn't even want to go visit. She loves living in the country. Hopefully the people of Chicago will stay there. We don't particularly want them out here.
     
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    Chicago is a completely democrat led city (for 60 years) in a completely democrat controlled state.

    Nice troll post.
     
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    I'm at the point of saying, who cares let them kill each other. Just stay out of my neck of the woods.
     
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    The left on this forum isn't even objective with their opinions anymore. Its simply just flat out stupidity. When there is zero possibility of scoring a point, then the score doesn't matter.
     
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    I’ll forgive you since you have little understanding how the governance of this country works. Trump doesn’t control individual cities. He can’t legally force any city to do anything without declaring martial law which is ONLY needed as a last gasp. I forgive your ignorance.
     
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    More than 19,000 illinois pensioners recieve annual pension payments in excess of $100,000.

    Illinois is broke.

    Left wing politicians have, for decades, gotten in bed with public sector union bosses and negotiated contracts that are unsustainable in order to buy votes.

    There is no more money for anything else. Chicago isn't broke, the entire state of Illinois is broke. Working for the government in Illinois is the highway to wealth accumulation completely out of touch with comparable positions in the private sector that actually fund these positions.

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/more...pensions over $100,the course of their career.
     
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    What is weird is when a black guy opens fire at a party in Chicago, shooting multiple people, they call it gun violence and it barely makes the 10 pm local news.

    Why are these never called mass shootings like they are when a white crazy person does it at a church, school, or bowling alley?
     
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    You have nonidea what your talking about related to US separation if powers, and to be quite blunt your making a fool of yourself digging your heals in with such nonsense.
     
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