Phoenix police kill ex-NFL player Ekom Udofia, bodycam footage shows

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  1. notme

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    You say that, while still are supportive of that nazi policy.

    We've all seen the people marching to defund the police, so more mental help could be provided.
    We never saw the people march for that BS that you posted.
     
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    Irrelevant to the fact that you demand me to source again how teens can become cops. That shows you were not aware of it. That shows I am right by saying that become a cop, at that day and/or with so few hours of training.... that it's a joke.


    Last time I checked... white Christians and Jews violently oppressed about the entire globe, did mass enslaving, thieving, etc. You pinning this on black people is just insane. When the US was going for the possibility to blow up the world 1000 times over,... the white Christians and Jews were still in the days of violently oppress black people. It ended after the American apartheid days.

    You say that, while I put up a good 1000 years of how ultra violent the white culture and society was. We both know I can prove it. And I can tell you this,... that culture will never change. You are just looking the other way. That's your white privilege.
     
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    Yes, you showed AGAIN that black people commit an incredibly disproportionate amount of crime and that you're fine with that as long as they get arrested at the same rate as white people. Thanks for keeping this thread trendy and about the right kind of outrage.
     
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    The cops didn't have a chance to search, the boyfriend opened fire on them before they had a chance. The officers opened fire when they were fired upon and had no idea whatsoever of the colour of the person who shot at them. They did exactly the human thing. Anyone would have done the same in their position. It's so unfair they're being scapegoated. Of course they handcuffed him, what if he produced a weapon and open fire on them? They'd do that to everyone. The police put their lives on the line to protect the public, there will always be hindsight hypocrites like you who try to attack them but then when you're in trouble you're the first to squeal for help?
     
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    Dude...
    about 19% of white people do drug related crimes by using
    about 16% of black people do drug related crimes by using
    And the dealers is about equal.


    That means... WHITE people commit an incredible disproportionate amount of crime.
    :deadhorse:
     
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    Wrong. They had all the time of the world before they chose to swing by and do a no knock entry.

    Them cops closed their eyes and started shooting without any attempt to aim. That's where they went terrible wrong, and killed an innocent black woman. Her life matters!

    Killing innocent black people aint human, unless you're a nazi.

    Closing your eyes and shoot wherever is not something other trained professionals do.

    Totally fair to hold them accountable for shooting at random with their eyes closed.
    You demand that cops must be above the law. INSANE!! lol

    Thats just proves they shot the black healthcare worker deliberately for the incase he had a weapon.
    And that shows cops have absolutely NO CLUE about psychiatric care.
    They hardly can tell who gives psychiatric care and who needs it.
    THAT DUMB!

    Cops was found guilty in a court of law and got fired.
    Even the cops don't want him. Hello? lol

    They don't even make the top 10 most dangerous professions.
     
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    But not violent crime, that is where the difference lies.

    FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
     
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    Wrong, they were dealing with the previous arrest and then got around to the search of the linked houses. Err, why exactly do you think they closed their eyes? Got a source on that? Her life does matter but you cannot scapegoat the officers, no one is to blame for this but her drug dealing ex. No one is saying that the police should be above the law but they must be given the benefit of the doubt and held to a different standard because we expect them to deal with things we expect of no other. No, police shouldn't be required to deal with the mentally ill but there is no one else, once they become violent and start threatening people's lives it is no longer a health matter, it is a law enforcement matter. Yes, they were railroaded to appease the African-American community and avoid rioting, disgusting!

    lol=what people write to try to give their hollow arguments some substance because they know they are too flimsy to stand on their own, it's the philosophical equivalent of sawdust.

    No but we expect the police to risk confrontation and we expect that of no one else, they move towards the danger whilst everyone else runs away.
     
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    Your math is based on no facts whatsoever. The fact is that black people commit WAAAAAAAY more than their share of crime by a long shot, you're just making apologies for other peoples' bad behavior. That and your poor understanding of how law enforcement actually works is how this comedy is born.
     
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    This. @notme just making stuff up harms your credibility here, significantly.
     
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    Nevermind he endlessly quotes a survey as part of his "facts"...
     
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    They hit the WRONG house as well. That's shooting with your eyes closed, and got an innocent person killed.
    That's not defensible.

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    You have no standards for cops at all if you claim shooting with your eyes closed and getting an innocent person killed because of that should just be ignored. Your just calling "scapegoat" to get a free pass for cops above the law and as an excuse why black peoples lives shouldn't matter.

    Hence... defund the police and get more funds into healthcare workers. And it's simply the fact that African-Americans get the short end of the stick. As for disgusting... chocking to death a handcuffed person for over 8 minutes while fellow cops make sure the cop gets to publicly lynch a black guy like that.

    It's pathetic that people just call "free pass" or "scapegoat" in order to ignore what the cop did wrong when black people get killed in just totally unnecessary to downright evil ways.

    There is hardly a risk when the fact show that the profession isn't that dangerous compared to other professions.
     
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    I put up 2 sources, Buri.
    So my math is based on FACTS.
    And you brought up NOTHING to dispute this.

    And I sourced that they just get arrested more and than convicted more.
    You're just looking at the numbers of the convicted.
     
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    Making it up? They hit the neighbors apartment as well, almost killing a person there as well. That's just shooting with your eyes closed and hope for the best.. that's not according to me, but to the police force themselves who fired cops because of that.

    You know what is not credible? The cops. They claimed they weren't wearing body camera's during the raid, while foto's shown that they did. Oops.
     
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    Your math STILL says blacks commit a higher number of crimes, by a HUGE margin. Why is it you don't want criminals caught?
     
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    If you want to rehabilitate your credibility, you could provide sources for the things you claim. For example, why not share the photograph of the police on the raid wearing body cameras so people can see and decide for themselves? Why not provide the evidence that they were fired for "shooting with [their] eyes closed"?
     
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    I sourced that the numbers say:
    about 19% of white people do drug related crimes by using
    about 16% of black people do drug related crimes by using

    That makes the white people do higher numbers of crimes. :banana:
     
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    Yeah well. I could source the wikipedia page about it. But I'm sure you can find it yourselves.
    It goes all the way down that a cop got fired for shooting blind by the police force.
    Save to say you never bothered to look anything up, but assume I'm wrong.

    All you and the other poster got going is cussing "scapegoat" to claim your free pass for misconduct by cops when the facts start hitting in your face.
     
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    What Nazi policy exactly? Yeah the silent majority support my benevolent science, they just don't burn, loot and riot in support of it because they're the good people.
     
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    No, he fired at the target and some of the rounds either missed or over-penetrated. That's not firing with your eyes closed.

    Of course black lives matter but so do the lives of the officers, they should be given special exception because we expect them to confront situations no others do. For you the police can do nothing right because of your prejudice.

    Yes put more money into mental health but you still need law enforcement when some crazed man is walking around the streets with a gun. I'm sure you mean legitimately arresting a violent armed robber who'd threatened a pregnant woman with a gun, who was passing fake currency, who resisted arrest and was subdued by a recommended technique and died from the overdose of drugs he took.

    Black people get themselves killed because they commit more violent crime than anyone else, blame them for their violence, don't blame the police for having to confront their violence. But you blame the police rather than the African American community as you should? The police are forced to confront them, as no one else is.
     
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    To just kill a person who in fact could be helped with psychiatric care.

    Ah sure.. that "silent majority" that you can't prove exists. And I don't see what killing people who need psychiatric care has to do with rioters. Really strange. As if people who care for such people all riot. What an idiotic claim you make here when you read between te lines.
     
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    The officers who fired their colleague's say you're wrong.

    We're talking about these 3 specific cases, where the cops did something obviously wrong.
    Cops got fired by their colleague's and the government payed millions in damages.
    And you're disagreeing with the courts and the police force in order to support the worst of the bad apples.
    Just a little detail you missed.

    You now claim it's "abolish the police" or something which is incorrect. It's just "defund the police".

    The fact is for sure that
    1) white people use and deal more drugs than black people. Top of my head it's a 3% margin.
    2) the predominantly white police force arrests FAR more black people than white people for drug related crime. Margin is around 250%.
    3) far more black people who get arrested get convicted in the courts over drug related crimes. The Margin goes up even more
    4) white people get a LESSER sentence than black people on average under the same circumstances.
    5) on average white people get on parole earlier than black people.

    So the fact is that racism is present at every corner in the US justice department. And it's MASSIVELY OBVIOUS.
    And the police itself is part of the problem and haven't done ANYTHING against this over the last decades.
    The people are fed up and demand the end of their racist ways. It aint 1950 anymore, it's 2021!

    And we're not going to buy that this racism is only done on drug related offenses. It's all over.
    You wouldn't see a handcuffed Jew being suffocated by the cops for 9 minutes in public until (s)he dies.
    And it's not as if Floyd was the fist black person to be executed like that.


    And FYI. Cops themselves are not just on average rather racist.
    They are punching 4 times above their weight when it comes to violent domestic crimes.

    Nothing like beating your own wife and kids when having a badge so you can't be scapegoated.
     
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    You seem to be ignoring that blacks commit more crimes by a LOT. Why?
     
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    By the time he's firing a gun at the cops, we're well past the point where psychiatric care might be helpful. The goal is to stop the threat as quickly as possible.
     
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    Over half of those were suicide.
     

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