Senator Murkowski threatens to quit GOP giving the Democrats a clear Senate majority unless Trump...

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  1. LoneStarGal

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    He's the most powerful man in Washington right now. The last liberal moderate Democrat left standing.
     
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    Still bound by the fact that he wouldn't want to be associated with the GOP while that party is run by a QAnon conspiracy theorist.
     
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    Well bully for her! She stood by and watch all kinds of crap for four years, but NOW she's thinking it's too much. Why does it take this level of violence to recognize the potential harm Trump was doing to the party and America? Plenty of us saw it throughout - but I guess she needed bloodshed to wake up. Pathetic.
     
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    Ronna McDaniel is a QAnon conspiracist? LOL Funny.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes. This doesn't exonerate her for being complicit in keeping Trump in power in January 2020. And I very much doubt she'll turn Democrat. But the part that is noteworthy is that now there is real pressure on Trump to resign, and on Pence to use the 25th. Plus a green light for the House to impeach him again.
     
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    No worries. Biden and Big Tech monopoly power will unify the country by silencing dissenters and taking high-profile political prisoners in the new America. The Color Revolution launched by the left over the last four years brought what used to only happen in foreign countries to the domestic arena.

    Perhaps that's why Democrats want to free Antifa anarchists, free drug dealers and thieves. Gotta' make room in those jails for anyone defined by the authoritarians as political dissidents.

    The future is 1984. The Unified U.S.S.A. is going to be so much better!
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems like if Biden were a leader and unifier, then he might want to make a statement against a second impeachment which won't start in the Senate until Biden's Inauguration Day.

    A true leader and uniter might prefer to ask Congress to drop the political pony show for revenge and focus their time on confirming his Cabinet members for silly things like national security and getting his administration officially pulled together and off to a strong start.

    I suppose blood lust from half of Americans against their fellow Americans takes priority though, so that's cool.
     
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    Well that was giggle worthy! Thanks!
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, watching top Democrats do "unity" the wrong way would be worth a snicker if it weren't such a continuation of devastating tragedy for this country's society.
     
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    More giggles! My day is brighter because of you.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can appreciate the dark humor of day-to-day political events. Just don't consider the long run implications of what happens today and the current events are rather absurdly amusing.

    Happy to brighten your day. :)
     
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    It used to be conservative. I have no idea what people stand for in todays bizarro world.
     
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    Do spare us the strawman. Obviously I'm talking about Trump. I don't know if McDaniel is QAnon or not, but she's only the Chair of the RNC
     
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    Ever wonder why media, and Congressional Democrats, have not once pointed to Pres Trump's exact words when they talk about 'incitement'? Just ponder that for a minute.
     
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    And your posts have been an exercise in the fantastical power of false narratives. Because everything I pointed out should get you thinking if using the word "coup" is even 1% appropriate. Spoiler alert: its not. These people numbered in the dozens, they didn't know each other, they didn't know where they were going, they didn't know to do when they got there (other than take selfies and steal stuff), and when police told them to leave they did. Some coup, right?

    If you want to see what an actual coup looks like then go research ANTIFA's work in Seattle in June of last year. They seized an entire police station, supporting government buildings, all told 6 blocks worth of property, driving out officials and setting up their own autonomous zone which they held with force for weeks. They were organized, they had chains of command, they had lines of communication (thanks Twitter), they had financial support (thanks GoFundMe), and they had a clear mission: to take power away from government and keep it for themselves. That is what a coup looks like, Golem.

    And not for nothing but Pres Trump actually did try to stop it. He sent multiple tweets urging people to go home and respect law and order, he recorded a video message the very next day saying the same thing. But his tweets were deleted and media didn't run his video - now why did you think they did that? If they were soooooo convinced that Pres Trump was leading this why wouldn't they help broadcast his calls to stand down?

    Challenge the narrative, Golem.
     
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    I have and it did not take a minute. Humpty is a shrewd manipulator of the deliberately cultured and nurtured mood of his cultists he and those who speak before him creates. Like, from Rudy..."Let's have trial by combat."

    In fact, it could go back four years when he first began crying tears about anyone who does not suck his toes like CNN etc and Fox et al sucked it up and helped retail sales of crap.



    The bloke is not a dummy. He is a very clever yet insane Caligulan snake oil salesman, and it seems there are 70 million Americans who are will buy. That is scary.

    Fact is.....he is an AMERICAN*, a disastrous fraudulent loser right across the spectrum, a grub, a vacuous narcissist and 'you' need to keep him well away from the body politic. He is the greatest threat to the USA ever. China/Russia do not come close. "You" thought he was the Messiah who was going to MAGA, make America white again, make the big end of town more grotesquely wealthy again, there would be a wealth trickle down to the plebs. Fact is, all he did was use a credit card. Even you can do that.

    The prick sold 'you' and anyone outside of the USA who regarded the USA as a beacon of positive ideals, particularly democratic ones, out. One day that will be carved in stone. Mark my words. History will be very very harsh, unforgiving and brutal.

    Que sera sera.

    *That is a deep metaphor.
     
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    I'm just not seeing how anything you wrote relates to the accusation that Pres Trump's tweets directed an 'insurrection'. And this is why I asked if you ever wondered why media, and Congressional Democrats, have not once pointed to Pres Trump's exact words when they talk about 'incitement'? Because you typed out a lot, and it certainly goes off on its own path, but the accusation is that Pres Trump's tweets caused this so why are we not putting those tweets center stage? And I think you know the answer, Bush, and that is because he really didn't anything close to what he's being accused of.

    I mean, hell, then-candidate Harris went on Colbert a few days after a major riot and told people that the riots "should continue" her exact words - which of course they did. Pres Trump was tweeting the same day for people to go home and to respect law & order, the next day he sent out a video saying the same thing again. Are we going to impeach VP Harris after Pres Trump?
     
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    Not really. Compare her to other Republican senators. I did two. John Thune and Rob Portman(picked at random from names I've seen in the news recently). She voted with both around 93% of the time.

    EDIT: I ran a few more names through. She voted with Rand Paul and Mike Lee 75% and 81% respectively. Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham are both at 93%.
     
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    If voting record is the criterion then you are correct. I still believe legislators should be able to vote for what they think is best for the country. Political parties generally stand in the way of that.
     
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    How is a violent attempt to place in power the loser of a democratic election, promoted by that candidate that lost the election, not a coup? What is it then?

    Stop repeating QAnon conspiracy theroies. Antifa is an adjective. Not a group. It means "anti-fascist". Anybody who opposes fascism is an anti-fascist.

    And the objective of the protests las summer were not to take over the government. It was to stop systemic racism.

    That's ridiculous.

    When the mob boss says "You have a nice family. It would be a shame if something happened to it"... he's not saying that he's going to invite them to his party next Christmas.

    Same goes for Trump tweeting that he wants a "peaceful" Coup d'etat. What a ridiculous argument!
     
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    I agree with that completely, although it's worth mentioning that each one can vote however they want. But I get your point.
     
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    Something I read years ago, was that when a vote is coming up, a Congressman's staff member will make a tally of constituents within their district who call/write/email requests for their representative to vote "Yes" or "No" on the matter. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

    They are supposed to represent the people in their district, so communications can make a difference. I doubt many issues are important enough to the public to send a lot of communication, but flooding their office with calls and letters should matter on the "big events".

    Of course, they do try to influence each other away from what people in their own districts may want, but they have to weigh the value of being influenced by peers to "go rogue" against their risk of getting voted out.
     
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    False. There are lots of Antifa groups in this country.
     
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    She is a Democrat that only votes with Republicans when her vote doesn't matter. Glad to see her go
     
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    What they really represent is their own re-elections. It is a serious flaw in the design of the federal government A single term limit for every elected office would fix that in a hurry.
     
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