Should being a racist/bigot/anarchist disqualify you from Police/Military/Office service?

Should a citizen, who is known to be or express racist, or a bigot, or an anarchist even, views in their private life, should that disqualify them from having power or control over other citizens, and deny them the opportunity to receive tactical training?

 

I personally say yes. There are certain extreme beliefs that cannot be held in check, and their bias would be almost impossible for them to control, even on an unconscious level.

The military used to do tat checking, and teach classes on how to spot extremists to all soldiers. They do neither of these things today.

This should at a minimum be re-instated at all police/military levels. imo.


I also do not believe that racists and bigots have any place in holding elected office for the very same reasons.

 

yep

 

If I was in charge of hiring police officers, I would not hire KKK members, Antifa members, or anyone who sympathized with either of them.

The only concern I have is becoming overly broad in defining that. We have a lot of low-info people these days who think that if you voted for Trump you’re a racist, which is absurd. The idea that you should be disqualified for a job based upon how you voted is an affront to everything our country stands for. We cannot let that happen.

 

The criteria should apply to anyone who can personally impact another's liberty.

There's just no room in society for them.

A judge can (and does) impose harsher sentences. A prosecutor can go for harsher charges. A prison guard can, well, you get the drift.

 

Agreed. We do love our slippery slopes.

 

I voted yes but would be very interested in how they conduct their screenings.

 

Its a free society's method of allowing free speech and thought but imposing certain consequences for expressing them. One of which is exclusion from any position of official power or influence over fellow citizens for the most adamant and aggregious.

OTOH, I think it has to be huge fences around it thru legislation, like they did in Germany with banning certain expressions of support for nazis and holocaust denial which spans all media.

 

Agreed. There is a reason everyone in the service industry doesn't tell us all to go F ourselves.

 

Yes but only in the sense that they belong to subversive organisations. I would equally ban anyone who is a member of BLM/Antifa.

 

Elected office means REPRESENTING everyone which is why racists and bigots do NOT quality for the position.

Being a police officer means to PROTECT and SERVE everyone which is why racists and bigots do NOT quality to be police officers.

Being in the military means DEFENDING and UPHOLDING the Constitution for everyone which is why racists and bigots do NOT quality to serve in the military.

 

How does one become a "member" of these groups? Do we get a secret decoder ring and all?

 

Well yes it should, the problem is these terms are thrown around so loosely these days.... most people accused of being racists, bigots and anarchists are decidedly not. So perhaps a convicted anarchist, racist and bigot, however your court system is also corrupt...America have a deep corruption problem, so anyone suggesting these terms be used to discriminate are highly likely also corrupt.. merely using them to achieve their own goals

 

Eh? We have the right to Free Speech, but if it is contrary to the conventional wisdom of the times one will be severely persecuted for the exercise of that right. Have I got that correct.

It seems under that scenario we do not have the right to Free Speech.

 

The way in which you phrase this question leaves a lot of blanks to fill in. I don't think ANY persons who are dedicated to a racist or bigoted world view should ever be in authority over others. The devil is always in the details though. Who sets the parameters? Who gets to decide? Our nation is badly divided at the moment and there aren't a lot of cooler heads that I've seen. If we are to remain a free, peaceful nation we will have to listen to EVERYONE and not just one side of the ideological divide. What I see coming down the road is ugly and I pray we can find common ground. If we can't then none of us will benefit from the path we're on.

 

Oh no, I'm not talking about contrary to conventional wisdom, I'm talking about expressing hatred and exclusion and promoting violence or exploiting children or engaging in human trafficking . Consequences for that crap under the do unto others as they do unto you only more decisively rule.

 

But that's the thing, they are not doing unto others, they are only expressing their opinion.

 

The question would indicate you may not be aware of the existing recruiting methods of the US military. How about you go find out before you ask such questions?

Here I tried to find you easy to read explanations:

https://www.backgroundchecks.com/blog/what-does-a-military-background-check-

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/meps-at-a-glance-3354039

https://www.addictivetips.com/protection/us-army-background-check/


The bottom line in any recruiting process for the military is, the lower the level of clearance the less screening might be done initially, there is a full proof test on anyone for any occupation.

The point is if someone is one of the labels you have listed they could hide it or it could already be public record.

Eventually even people who hide their negative agendas express it and when that happens many things may counter their expressions.

Idiots and unstable people exist in all professions and careers.

 

The world is full of people dedicated to the kind of agenda you disagree with of course. You seem to just be coming to a point in your life where you are coming to a conclusion that certain people are negative.

While I am glad you are coming to realize not all humans are nice people.......maybe just maybe you should start with yourself. Its a good starting point. You'd be surprised how influential you can be in promiting admirable behaviour just by engaging in it yourself. Trying to control things that frighten you in others will not and can not work.

 

I suppose it depends on what they "expressed". If their racism is along the lines of "blacks should be eradicated" then yes. If their racism is "Blacks are addicted to fried chicken" then probably not.

 

Racists and bigots should never be given a seat at the table.

They should be smashed over and over and over.

 

Let ask it differently:
Can a register Democrat serve under Republican president?
Can a register Republican serve under Democratic president?

 

What if he uses that fried chicken to instead mock and make fun of black people? His racism may not manifest its self in violence, but instead in humor. Thats still just as bad of a person imo

 

Well, let's see. In the constitution itself, the framework guarantees that a) you have freedom to express your views and opinions. b) that you are protected from self incrimination, and c) that government cannot arbitrarily inspect your personal property and or writings without probable cause of a crime. So, we've watched the bigots/racists of the democratic party publicly profess and display their racist, bigoted, and anarchist behavior for more than a century now. It's as if they still don't understand they lost the first civil war. And yet, government has still turned a blind eye to their recruitment and service in our government. Think about that.

 

No one who believes in the inferiority of another based on their unchangeable characteristics has no business holding power over them or anyone else. So yea, they should be banned from policing and any other positions of power.

On a side note, Anarchists don’t support coercive and involuntary hierarchies, so I suspect you be hard pressed to find an Anarchist interested in police work.