NY: Charge dropped against white woman who called police on Black bird-watcher

No she shouldn’t.

Entire situation was stupid, including the “punishment”.

 

Minorities don’t suffer from racism significantly more. That’s false.

Minorities just don’t get accused of racism when they act racist.

racism is overwhelmingly a nonissue for everyone. But most is directed at white people, not coming from them.

 

NYC has bigger fish to fry than prosecuting a Misdemeanor.

End of Story.

 

What should her punishment have been for being an idiot? Should all idiots get your suggested punishment? I already think her punishment for being an idiot was above and beyond but I want to hear what you would have suggested.

 

Oh, well it was a minor crime. A misdemeanor. She just wasted police time as well as inconvenienced a Black man (had to talk to police) who was just out there to watch the birds.

I don't think it amounts to jail time, but maybe a small fee. I think the crime was so mild that it would have been an even greater waste of everyone's time to press charges, and bring her to court, and then have her serve 6 months in jail plus a $100 fine.

 

When the majority is still racist enough against black people that it shows up in all kinds of stats....
When you express your opinion against it during BLM protests....
And some people categorically deny racism goes on, to the point that even the president wants your butt to be fired....
What do I suppose to think about a minority who plays like that too?

Interracial marriages were like 3% some decades ago and is around 17 to 20% now. The entire idea of "the great melting pot" is a concept from a time that interracial marriages were dead low, and it was just a white persons perspective of an Italian immigrant marrying an immigrant from Ireland in the US. Something that would not happen in Europe. I am going to boldly claim without any prove that the chances of an white orthodox Jew marrying a black Catholic,.. is still rather slim.

 

What money needs to be restituted?

I think she apologized that is restitution enough.

 

So you think filing a false police report should have no repercussions?
Strange

 

The money that the police spent on the investigation should be refunded to the taxpayer. Strange how all the people that have had very different arguments about wasting police resources in other cases are suddenly like “who cares” — I wonder what variable changed?

 

the majority is not racist against black people... the minority of whites and the minority of blacks are racist, most people are not racist

it's not just inter-racial marriages as in black and white, Obama is an inter-racial marriage as he is half white, all the children of inter-racial couples marry too - it's just the reality of it, people don't care as much about race today as they did in the past, it's progress, is that not want we want, race not to matter?

 

She never filed a false police report. Everyone who claimed she did may be the ones ending up paying restitution.

 

It's more likely that a lawyer informed him that both he and his sister may be in legal jeopardy, because by his own admission he did behave in a threatening manner toward the woman and her dog. That would have been brought up in court if he had testified against her.

 

I think it could have been a very quick and easy investigation of an event that lasted a little over a minute and is caught on tape. We are not required to pay the cost of a law enforcement investigation especially when you are not charged with anything, that would be unconstitutional. If she is not charged and before a court, who is going to sanction her and force a civil fine on her? This is like the impeachment who cares if we didn't prove you committed a crime we don't like you so we are going to legally sanction you and you cannot get the same due process you would have in court.

 

She did commit a crime, they were pursuing a misdemeanor charge but dropped it because she took some classes. It is literally in the OP.

It is interesting to see so many of you revise your position since the last case of fraudulent reporting.

 

Who said that? She did have to take "don't be an idiot" classes. So you are saying that every time anyone is an idiot that wastes police time, those idiots should have to pony up some money? That will probably not end well.

 

It sounds fair to me. The white person did something thoughtless, the black guy wasn't out to re align the racial tensions of America by demanding her head on a pike. In fact he probably told the DA, "a simple apology will do." And moved on just like normal people do.

Things like this actually still happen.

 

I think that when people file falsified police reports or waste first responders time (and thus taxpayer money) they should have to reimburse those costs. Typically I say they should be charged with the crime they are accusing another of so my current position is quite light.

As to “who said that” there are two posters thus far that have said even the classes were too much of a penalty. More will come over time. You can tell the narrative many will take just based on the racial background of the victim and the perpetrator.

 

The reason it was dropped is because they didn't have a case to begin with. They would have had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she did not feel her life was in danger at that moment. If it had gone to trial, she would have been acquitted, especially with the only potential witness against her refusing to testify, because he didn't want his social media post where he admitted he threatened her brought up.

 

That would definitely change things, do you have a source where he admitted he threatened her because the video does not show such an interaction.

 

Ok, let's say a woman is walking down a dark street alone and gets harassed by a group of thug looking guys. She calls the cops but later finds out that they are just Mormon pests. You want her to pay? Don't you think that might make people warry of calling the cops in the first place?

 

If she is being harassed I don’t understand why it would matter if they were “thug looking” or “Mormon pests” — harassment is illegal. The police would be warranted in that case.

 

So, this woman felt harassed and she called the police. Is that all it takes?

 

Can you point to where in the video she was harassed?

Harassment has a legal definition, it isn’t a “feeling”.

Why does this not “smell of Jussie Smollett” as you have so eloquently put it in the past?

 

Simply Google: Chris Cooper "you're not going to like it"
and you'll find plenty of sources come up that quote his Facebook post describing what happened before he started recording her. I'm not sure if that post is still up now, but I remember seeing it when it was.

 

From his own Facebook post. Sounds like he's threatening to poison her dog. Do you think that is OK?

ME: “Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.”
HER: “What’s that?”
ME [to the dog]: “Come here, puppy!”
HER: “He won’t come to you.”
ME: “We’ll see about that.” . . . I pull out the dog treats I carry for just such intransigence. I didn’t even get a chance to toss any treats to the pooch before Karen scrambled to grab the dog.

harassment. (either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands.

So yes, he was harassing her by the legal definition.