Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

Had there been any shooting by who?

 

I'm no trained LEO but I DO understand that shooting to KILL should be a last resort. The ONLY shot fired that day was HIS. The video clearly shows that he over-reacted to the situation. IMO the thug WANTED to shoot so he did. And he won't suffer any real consequences for it.

 

The only shot fired was HIS. This woman was acting foolishly but to draw down and execute someone for breaching a perimeter even when no deadly force had been attempted by ANYONE that day, is not justifiable IMO. The fact that half the country seems to agree that he did the right thing, exhibits just how damned dangerous all this propaganda has become. Re-education camps and Red Flag laws and "laser-like focus on rooting out domestic terrorists". <Trolling>

 

If you accidentally stated that I claimed that "some shops" equals "an entire city" when you intended to refer to poohbear, then you should have just said so! Accidents happen!

No, we don't know that they killed one. It is still being determined.

Which doesn't mean that the rioters were trying to KILL them!

Link to these images then.

He was being crushed by the crowd but we don't know that he was being specifically targeted for crushing.
We don't know what is going on behind him. Crowd crushes at sporting events have happened throughout history.

Correct, but I'm not TRYING to deny it! They were VERY violent, but this doesn't mean that they all should have been shot dead!

Oh so NOW you're choosing to believe official police statements! How convenient!

You don't know that they attempted to kill them.

It's relevant because if there wasn't even ONE fascist "killing cops", then you would have no point!

What the hell do you mean they are the same cops? If someone is a RIOT police officer, they are not a NON-riot police officer!
Your point was that they have "different gear" and you are 100% correct! And different gear = different role! Otherwise why do they have different gear?

Cops have no problem shooting fleeing black men in the back after he reaches into his car for a possible gun!

Oh, so the videos capture absolutely EVERYTHING that happened?

 

Weren't there bombs found?

Is there a problem with a laser-like focus on rooting out domestic terrorists?

 

The video clearly shows nobody else going past the same point. The crowd then move to the exit after being moved on by police.

 

What the hell are you talking about. It's YOUR opinion that they were out to kill congress people! I haven't ONCE said that!

Your INABILITY to understand the English language is making our conversations difficult. YOU mentioned tourists, and it seemed that you were saying that I was calling the rioters tourists. So I said, "it's not illegal for tourists to take photos during a tour. It IS illegal to BREAK IN to Congress in order to take photos." So I was CLEARLY making a distinction between tourists and the rioters!

No, I know that they SAID all of this. But they didn't DO it. They were utterly pathetic pieces of HUMAN WASTE who could not even come CLOSE to overturning the democracy of the POWERFUL United States of America! My description again: evil pieces of human waste violently attacked police in order to break into the Capitol building, wreaking havoc, and causing people to fear for their lives. It was an insurrection and an assault on democracy. Meanwhile, here is your GREAT description of the BLM riots: "a footlocker was ransacked and some windows and TV's were broken."

 

The same people defending a dead terrorist are the same ones who cheered when Floyd was murdered. This is why trump lost in a landslide.

 

Why should I do that? poohbear claimed entire cities got burned, while it was ME who claimed only some shops were hit.
And that's what went on. You barged in and went on a disagreeing frenzy on that.

Yes, what I put up is the official response made by the police force.
You only got some anonymous source saying differently.
And since it's just some anonymous source: I don't care.

You can clearly see a the fascist in the light brown jacked with a black club in his hand hovering over the cop.


In the link, you an see the same guy with light brown jacked.
One step down standing next to him you see an other thug using a flag to beat him down.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1348340289652486146

And you basically claim you never saw this, demand me to prove it... because you deny this went on.
This ALL falls within the same frame of downplaying of what them white fascists were doing.
Point remains: no cop shot at these white thugs while brutally trying to kill cops,
while they have no problem shooting a black man fleeing.

All the cops were targeted, and that includes the guy. And we know behind him were more cops.
No cop shot at these white thugs while brutally trying to kill cops,
while they have no problem shooting a black man fleeing.

You demand that I need to prove that cops were brutally beaten,
and also deny the cops were targeted when they fascist mob were crushing them.
So you are denying what went on... with your opinion of just there taking pictures.
That is parroting a white fascist narrative.

We all know that they attempted to kill them. The vids don't lie.

There is no if, when the cops say they killed one, and the vid has been seen by millions of people how the cops got crushed, and beaten down while lying faced down. So the stark contrast of how cops behave with these white people who are attempting to kill cops vs cops having no problem shooting at black people fleeing persists.

So what. My point is that they are the same cops.

The violent white fascist mob possible had guns as well. And they did find guns, massive amounts of ammo... and even bombs.
Yet no shots were fired....

 

Nope... you said "By making DEAD Congress people vote another way?"
You're raising that point. While indeed... they chanted to kill Mike Pence.

You're downplaying that they were just there to take photo's. That makes them tourists.
We all know that claiming they were there to take photo's is just a white fascist fake narrative.
It's unfounded KKKanon nonsense.

ah... "pieces of human waste". That's a mighty low thing to say about the people who were there taking pictures after they just broke in... ish... according to your own account.
We all know that claiming they were there to take photo's is just a white fascist fake narrative.
It's unfounded KKKanon nonsense. And so I'm in my full right to downplay BLM protetests.

 

Who are these people?

 

He didn't loose in a landslide.

 

Trump cultists

He most certainly did. Contrary to what you people think trump is hated all around and rightfully so.

 

When I had "The talk" with my kids about how to handle an encounter with the police, I explained that they are one of the few people that can kill you and get away with it.
The capitol cop proves that, and if our elected representatives don't care, then don't come whining to me about cops killing blacks resisting arrest who are legally subject to control "By any means necessary".

 

Terrorists who came to kill?

Thousands of firearms registered collectively among them. Where were those guns on Jan 6?! They came with intent to kill. Who are they, and where are the guns? Who would show up to kill, but leave their arsenal at home? How many guns were found or observed on these terrorists?

 

Irrelevant.

 

Availability of a weapon that wasn't used is irrelevant in determining a person's intent in every case, or just this one, where a political point needs to be made?

 

I agree with you, except for your apparent certainty that the LEO is a thug. There are still scenarios, in my mind (and I have limited Internet browsing capability in my life right now), in which he acted in fear of his or others' safety. What did he know of the evac, when did he know it, and did the building layout allow a withdrawal from his position?

I need these questions, as well as the LEO's social media history, and past work conduct, answered in order to jump to thug.

You see, I can defend Ashli or the LEO. Apparently I'm here to defend terrorists and thugs.

 

You're saying that it was an unjust shoot?

 

Of course they didn't go by the same point, they didn't want to be shot. Basically what you're saying is that the guard shot her because she entered through the glass door - even though she wasn't the one that broke it. If she had waited to enter through another door it would have been okay and he wouldn't have killed her.

That means that breaking the glass isn't a crime, and entering the chambers isn't a crime either. The only crime is stepping through a broken glass door, and that's why he shot her. What a strange law?

So why aren't we told who shot her? Was he a guard, a policeman or a paid assassin? One person said on the video after being pepper sprayed, that at least he'll get a thousand dollars. So who is paying them?

I just read on the Epoch Times that the mother of the police officer who was supposedly killed with a fire extinguisher, told the Daily Mail that her son wasn't killed by the Trump followers. There is no video of anyone hitting him, and that the medias made up the story to demonize the Trump followers. She believes he had a stroke, but she still hasn't received the autopsy report.

So why are they keeping the autopsy from her? Was it so the Democrats could use the narrative that he was killed by a fire extinguisher for their farcical impeachment trial? The only one killed during the rally was Ashli - and it wasn't by the protesters.

 

Then what did you mean by, "also when the others entered, why weren't they shot as well?" When they "entered" where?

Behind that point was obviously a highly secured area. Most likely Congress people were just around the corner, and the police's procedure at that point may have been that anyone who passes that point is considered an imminent threat to Congress people. In an ideal world, the message of "move past this point and you will be shot" would have been communicated somehow to the rioters. Could the shooting cop have made himself more of an obvious threat to try to get this message across ? Sure. Unfortunately, the girl likely had no idea that the cop was waiting in position with his gun aimed her way, and she paid the price when she attempted to enter past that point. <Mod Edit>

 

Quote ONE SINGLE person who celebrated George Floyd's death. Just ONE!

Quote ONE SINGLE source which describes Trump's defeat as a "landslide." Just ONE!

How does this mean that Trump lost in a landslide?

 

You're totally confused. I asked, "even if they killed everyone, how would that have overturned the election? And you replied, "by making them vote an other way." How can dead congress people vote exactly?

No it doesn't make them tourists, because they weren't allowed to be there and they destroyed half of the Captiol Building! Tourists don't tend to do that!

Well what else were they there to do other than take photos, destroy property and disturb Congressional proceedings? You have no evidence of anything else.

Again, they were utterly pathetic pieces of HUMAN WASTE who could not even come CLOSE to overturning the democracy of the POWERFUL United States of America! My description again: evil pieces of human waste violently attacked police in order to break into the Capitol building, wreaking havoc, and causing people to fear for their lives. It was an insurrection and an assault on democracy. Meanwhile, here is your GREAT description of the BLM riots: "a footlocker was ransacked and some windows and TV's were broken."

 

I cannot make it any clearer than this:

Oh so NOW you're choosing to believe official police statements! How convenient!

You cut the above out from your last reply! How telling!

Anonymous source? Yeah, try the New York Times! As quoted in the Snopes article:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-extinguisher/
"Law enforcement officials initially said Mr. Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher, but weeks later, police sources and investigators were at odds over whether he was hit. Medical experts have said he did not die of blunt force trauma, according to one law enforcement official."

So is your point that they all should have been shot dead?

Targeting cops doesn't mean that the punishment is death.

I denied that the specific cop that you mentioned, was being targeted for crushing. Which specific rioters are you saying should have been shot dead for that specific cop being crushed?

The vids show rioters being very violent towards cops. This doesn't mean KILL.

No, non-riot cops are not the same as riot cops!

And yet none of them used a gun! Instead they used other weapons! If as you claim, the rioters were trying to KILL cops, then why didn't any of them use their gun to kill a cop? Do you suppose that it might be because they weren't trying to KILL cops, or else they didn't have a gun?

Oh, so the videos capture absolutely EVERYTHING that happened?

 

The killing of people of congress was your point, not mine. I care little about your shenanigans of making a question about it.

They destroyed half the Capitol, for the sake of taking pictures? Your claim of taking pictures can only be regarded as false and downplaying what went on for the sake to push a white fascist agenda. It's something you can not help to keep on doing.

No evidence of anything else? Even you go on that they were not even close to overturning the democracy.
But that is what they attempted to do. You keep omitting these things deliberately.

And you again drag in BLM protest, to compare it.
They aint in the same ballpark. Incomparable.. unless you downplay it.
You have yet to argue against my reasoning why I downplay it.