Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

It's not my response to poohbear, so you're ripping it out of context.

There are no other statements. What you got is an anonymous person with a different opinion.
It might as well be an 8 year old trolling around. Such a thing means nothing to me.

Yup. It's an anonymous source.

My point is: .... they do not shoot white fascists who were brutally assaulting the cops and attempted to kill them.
You can brutally assault a cop with bats and fire extinguisher and kill them... as what happened.

My point is: .... they do not shoot white fascists who were brutally assaulting the cops and attempted to kill them.
You can brutally assault a cop with bats and fire extinguisher and kill them... as what happened.

They obviously saw him there, and they were busy crushing him while ripping off his gasmask.
And yet you claim he wasn't targeted, as if the fascist mob was unaware he was there.
Totally retarded KKKanon nonsense, downplaying what went on.

My point is: .... they do not shoot white fascists who were brutally assaulting the cops and attempted to kill them.
You can brutally assault a cop with bats and fire extinguisher and kill them... as what happened.

My point is: .... they do not shoot white fascists who were brutally assaulting the cops and attempted to kill them.
You can brutally assault a cop with bats and fire extinguisher and kill them... as what happened.

I already sourced that they are the same people who are part of my point.

The picture shows a guy holding a black rod hovering over the head of a cop lying faced down.
The vid shows multiple people beating that same cop.
You got no grounds to claim this was not an attempt to kill that cop, just because it wasn't a gun,
as if the only thing that can kill is a gun.

I never stated that. You're just adding words to alter the context. It's an ill habit of yours.

 

It's your response to ME! You said that's what I claimed!

I thought that you meant MY source. My source was the New York Times, but obviously you were referring to their law enforcement source. Anyway, you're wrong about the police saying something official about a fire extinguisher. Earlier you said that you "put up" the "official response made by the police force." You did no such thing, otherwise you would have ended up putting up this official statement, which has no mention of a fire extinguisher: https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick

Police aren't allowed to just kill people, even if the people are being violent.

Police aren't allowed to just kill people for ripping off a cop's gasmask. That's not how policing works.

The vids show rioters being very violent towards cops. This doesn't mean attempted to KILL.

No, non-riot cops are not the SAME PEOPLE as riot cops!

So you've dropped your claim that "the violent white fascist mob possible had guns as well." And of course other things apart from guns can kill, but the simple fact is that it makes it harder for a cop to shoot and kill someone if the weapon isn't a gun.

And that's the point! If the vids didn't capture EVERYTHING, then how can you say what happened?

 

You still haven't said how the rioters would have overturned the election.

No, they destroyed half of the Capitol Building for the sake of destroying half of the Capitol Building, AND they took photos, AND they disturbed Congressional proceedings, AND they made people fear for their lives.

Yeah, because they WEREN'T close to overturning the democracy. You haven't explained how they WERE close. They certainly DISTURBED democracy, but the human waste was quickly dealt with by the ALMIGHTY law enforcement!

What is your reasoning?

 

It remains in thatcontext of poohbear, that you mingled in.

So what that it doesn't say "fire extinguisher". It perfectly well says he died from his injuries from engaging the fascist mob. That fits my narrative of the fire extinguisher. Your claim that it's unknown if the mob killed him.... is just totally disgraceful. But hey... whatever it takes to white wash what the fascist did, right?

You got a source on that? Since I do believe they can use deadly force when they think there is a reasonably believe the subject poses a significant threat of serious bodily injury or death to themselves or others

And you got to be kidding me that beating down a cop, lying faced down doesn't qualify for this.
Point remains: no cop shot at these white thugs while brutally trying to kill cops,
while they have no problem shooting a black man fleeing.

I sourced that riot police are the same as the police.

I have not dropped that claim. Nobody was frisked. And they did find guns, ammo, and even bombs.

The vid proves you're in no position to claim the violent mob attacking the cops, attempting to kill them, did not happen.
And that is what matters to the point of:
no cop shot at these white thugs while brutally trying to kill cops,
while they have no problem shooting a black man fleeing.

 

I love that this is still on page one. 37 pages of the left trying to dispute their hypocrisy and choking on their words
you should package this thread into a book. It could be a best seller for sure

 

Donald had idea's how Pence could overturn the elections -but according to Donald- he didn't "had the courage" and the mob was out there looking for him....
This is all known. Maybe you just should leave this thread altogether if you don't got a clue what went on.

And it just "happened to be" in the MIDDLE when they voted in who was going to be the next president in the capitol....
A total coincidence, right? What a humiliating opinion to sweettalk the attack on democracy by a white fascist mob. lol

 

Trump didn't want Pence to overturn the election, he wanted him to call for a commission to find out if the election was honest before the inauguration.

When you have Biden with something like 8 thousand more votes, and yet 12 thousand of the votes came from dead people, it does sound pretty fishy to me. But then again, why discriminate against the dead - and the underage - and those living out of state - and illegals? We're a democracy everyone can vote even my dog - right?

SUPREME COURT​

And if we say so, why not?​

 

Yes, he did. That's literally what he called for, and not just with Pence. He called him a failure for refusing to do so, and his cultists showed up trying to execute Pence for the "crime" of obeying the Constitution over licking Trump's dictatorial boots.

There were not "12 thousand votes [coming] from dead people." That's a lie. Of course it sounds fishy. It's a lie.

 

I have news for you, according to the officer's mother he did not die from injuries. She said it's just the media's attempt to demonize the Trump followers. She said he probably died from a stroke. In the meantime, the government as yet hasn't given her the autopsy report. So why are they keeping it hidden from her?

Now let's get on to the subject of another officer, the one who executed Ashli Babbitt? Well finally some journalists are getting on to it. According to pictures, the Lieutenant was not following rules, had his finger on the trigger when he shouldn't have, and had his gun pointing at others when he shouldn't have. Was he waiting for a command from someone to shoot - maybe John Sullivan who was near Ashli, or was he a hero as his lawyer says

If the name of Ashli's killer was revealed, then her lawyers could check into his background and his bank transactions to see if he had received any large sums recently. Also, who is paying his legal fees? Instead they're using the excuse that the Lieutenant is afraid for his life. I don't buy it!

His lawyer does have connections with the Democratic Party and was a large donor to Biden. He also represented the major culprit in the fake Steele Dossier. Looks like he's getting big bucks from somewhere.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...bbitt-lead-murder-suspect-ashli-babbitt-case/

 

There are actually people self-deluded enough to think that all of these "strokes" are just a coincidence? Sorry, but I don't buy the claim that anyone is that dumb.

As for Ashli, anyone capable of watching the video can see that the shooting was justified.

 

Well, no doubt that opinion was brought before a court, and it got dismissed.
And that's even when the GOP dominates the Supreme Court...
Subsequently you lot lost the elections.

That's how it works.Nothing odd.

 

The MEDIA???
We sourced the official page of the Capital police where it says he died form his injuries.

You sourced from a known right wing fake news site.
Good luck with that.

 

Still no evidence that the crowd had "already committed a lot of domestic violence!"

 

So HOW would the rioters have overturned the election?

Yes, it was the day that it would become official that Trump would not continue as President, so it was obviously a highly significant day, and this mostly peaceful crowd wanted to protest what was happening and for many of them it was a desperate attempt to get Republicans in Congress to overturn the process. How does this mean that the rioters wanted to overturn the election THEMSELVES?

 

Yes, I "mingled" in it but that doesn't change that fact that you accepted my mingling and replied to me, and falsely accused me of making a claim!

It fits your narrative of the fire extinguisher, even though it doesn't mention a fire extinguisher?

We don't know that someone KILLED HIM! The statement reads: "Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters." That doesn't mean that someone killed him!

Sure, they CAN, but you're assuming that the reason that they DIDN'T is because of racism.

I would have thought that there was a good chance that it would qualify. And if there were say 5 or 10 examples of cops being beaten down, then I would certainly be quite suspicious if no shots were fired. Your other argument is that even though there is no comparable incident involving black rioters and DC Police, it doesn't matter because all cops are the same. So then, if the DC Police DID previously or subsequently respond to black rioters, and shot and killed a bunch of them who attacked them, and then they responded to the January 6 riots where they shot nobody who attacked them, then would you seriously say that this would not be more significant evidence of racism than if they had NOT responded to black rioters in this way? Of course you would! I would be joining you in calling it racist! This would be CONCRETE evidence of racism!

Black man fleeing to his car to reach in for possibly a gun!

I'm so certain that you can find a better example than the Jacob Blake shooting! Which really is a TERRIBLE example!

By linking to the wikipedia article for 'riot police?'

If as you claim, the rioters were trying to KILL cops, then why didn't any of them use their gun to kill a cop? Do you suppose that it might be because either they weren't trying to KILL cops, or else they didn't have a gun? Apparently some people were arrested who had guns, but we don't know whether they were involved in the riot, or just arrested for firearm offenses. I assume that you don't think that police should have shot and killed these people.

We're talking about a different vid. The vid which shows the DC BLM protests.
If the vids didn't capture EVERYTHING, then how can you say what happened? Remember, your claim is that it was a totally peaceful protest.

 

I dont find any need to go source that Proud Boys is a violent extreme right group, that supports Trump.
Canada labeled it a terrorist organization.

 

You won't be able to say what percentage of the crowd was proud boys!

 

You're saying yourself that this was a "desperate attempt to get Republicans in Congress to overturn the process".
So much for you saying they were there to take pictures. flip flop flip flop.

Because they were in the capitol.

 

I remains to be in the context of my reply to the other poster.
That you rip things out of context to reply to, is non of my concern.

You're not making an argument how it is not.

It does mean exactly that. You're just refusing to accept it since the cop was killed by a white fascist mob.
You do everything to whitewash their crimes.

You previously denied they could.
Point remains: no cop shot at these white thugs while them fascists were brutally trying to kill cops,
while the cops have no problem shooting a black man fleeing.

You're pushing the goalpost of demanding me proving 1 cop was physically assaulted to come up with 5 to 10 more examples. It remains low from you that you demanded even 1 cop got brutally assaulted / fascists were trying to get killed, with it's known a heck of a lot all cops got injured and 1 got killed.

All in all, you're not putting a dent in my original point.

My original point stands. While guns, ammo and bombs were found on January 6th.

you got nothing.

Indeed. Cops in general have no problem shooting a fleeing black man in the back.
While they have a problem shooting at white people who are trying to kill cops.
it is what it is.

 

Ah. So I just made a sound argument that the crowed was indeed known to be violent, to than quickly move the goalpost that I don't know the % of that crowed.

I find that not really relevant. There are 100's and 100's of arrests out for that fascist violent mob. I see no problem to qualify it as the % is high enough.

 

You were talking about the crowd at Trump's speech BEFORE the Capitol protest! You were NOT talking about the rioters specifically!

 

Yes, of course it's in that context, but that doesn't change that fact that you falsely accused me of making a claim!

The argument is that the statement doesn't mention a fire extinguisher!

No, he could have fell back and landed on his head. How does that mean that someone tried to kill him?

I meant they can't shoot in ANY non-lethal circumstance, whereas if the suspect has a gun and refuses to drop it, or else points it at an officer, shooting is ALWAYS justified. If a cop shot and killed a rioter during the Capitol riot, there's a chance that it would have been deemed justified. I don't deny that.

I'm so certain that you can find a better example than the Jacob Blake shooting! Which really is a TERRIBLE example!

Again, your other argument is that even though there is no comparable incident involving black rioters and DC Police, it doesn't matter because all cops are the same. So then, if the DC Police DID previously or subsequently respond to black rioters, and shot and killed a bunch of them who attacked them, and they also, before or after, responded to the January 6 riots where they shot nobody who attacked them, then would you seriously say that this would not be more significant evidence of racism than if they had NOT responded to black rioters in this way? Of course you would! I would be joining you in calling it racist! This would be CONCRETE evidence of racism!

YOU have nothing with your pathetic Wikipedia article for 'riot police!'

Again, non-riot cops are not the SAME PEOPLE as riot cops! You already admitted that they have different gear!

You're trying your best to claim that rioters had guns. Again, if as you claim, the rioters were trying to KILL cops, then why didn't any of them use their gun to kill a cop? Do you suppose that it might be because either they weren't trying to KILL cops, or else they didn't have a gun?

We're talking about a different vid. The vid which shows the DC BLM protests. If the vids didn't capture EVERYTHING, then how can you say what happened? Remember, your claim is that it was a totally peaceful protest and that Trump conspired with the cops to forcefully remove them for a photo op, under the false cover of the protesters being violent. That's a conspiracy theory.

 

I said that the "mostly peaceful crowd wanted to protest what was happening and for many of them it was a desperate attempt to get Republicans in Congress to overturn the process." Getting Republicans in Congress to overturn the process would literally have been the only way to overturn the election. However, your claim is that the rioters tried to overturned the election by storming the building. How exactly would they have done that?

 

So what. You're moving goalposts. Point stands:
Donald said that to a crowd who already committed a lot of domestic violence and were at that point of Donalds speech "standing by and standing ready" at Donalds wishes.
And I don't recall the dems yelling it to a crowd like Antifa to now go fight like hell.

 

We've been through this. I responded to Poohbear, and you went to dispute that. I am still right saying no cities were burned down.

Already responded to this with:
So what that it doesn't say "fire extinguisher". It perfectly well says he died from his injuries from engaging the fascist mob. That fits my narrative of the fire extinguisher. Your claim that it's unknown if the mob killed him.... is just totally disgraceful. But hey... whatever it takes to white wash what the fascist did, right?

It says he "was injured while physically engaging with protesters" and you're really going that low to suggest it means he was scaling a ladder on his way to protestors? The list of your pathetic attempts to white wash what the violent fascist mob did keeps getting longer.

I said...
You got a source on that? Since I do believe they can use deadly force when they think there is a reasonably believe the subject poses a significant threat of serious bodily injury or death to themselves or others

And you're not complying. I'm not interested if they can shoot under some circumstances according to you.
Your opinion is null and void.

Massive difference between the police attacking people who loot, and fascists attacking cops for standing in their way for them to terrorize politicians.
Point remains: no cop shot at these white thugs while brutally trying to kill cops,
while they have no problem shooting a black man fleeing.

That is an unfounded claim, which I even debunked.

It's not permanently attached to their skin. So you got no point

It's a fact that they found guns, ammo and bombs.

I got the international press saying it was peaceful.
You only got the culprits saying it was not.
Since when does an utterly biased source trump the international press?