There are how many ''Cuomos" posting on this site?

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  1. nopartisanbull

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    EXAMPLE # 1

    Question; Gov. Cuomo, there are how many Nursing Home deaths?

    Answer; 8,500.........TRUE

    Question; Mr. Cuomo, how many Nursing Home residents have died of Covid19?

    Answer; "All the deaths in the nursing homes and hospitals were always fully, publicly and accurately reported".........TRUE, however, the right answer is; 15,000

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...gating-cuomo-s-handling-nursing-home-n1258207

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    EXAMPLE # 2

    Claim; ''Florida has the lowest Covid19 death rate in the U.S., thus, DeSantis has been phenomenal''

    Question; Mr. Claimant, as of Mar 13th, 2021, there were how many confirmed Covid19 cases in Florida?

    Answer; According to Worldometers, 1,973,109 cases..........TRUE

    Question; Mr. Claimant, as of Mar 13th, 2021, there were how many Covid19 deaths in Florida?

    Answer; According to Wordometers, 32,252...........TRUE

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

    HOWEVER, FALSE!

    According to Florida's Department of Health;

    As of Mar 23, Florida's total number of Covid19 Cases, (BOTH Florida residents, and Non-Florida residents), 1,973,109

    As of Mar 23, Florida's total number of Covid19 deaths (BOTH Florida residents, and Non-Florida residents), 32,856, thus, 604 more deaths than reported by Wordometers.

    https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

    THUS, in reference to calculating the Death Rate, is it fair to INCLUDE both resident and non-resident Cases, and then, EXCLUDE non-resident Deaths?

    Of course not!

    Question; Mr. Claimant, does Florida have the lowest Covid19 death rate in the U.S.?

    Answer; Don't be a Cuomo!

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    EXAMPLE 3 out of 1 Million......

    Never mind.........

    What I'm trying to say; In an effort to glorigy or discredit POTUS/Party, how many posters have knowingly/intentionally inflated or deflated their figures?

    In an effort to glorigy or discredit POTUS/Party, How many have knowingly/intentionally overreported or underreported, and/or underrepresented their figures? In other words, there are how many ''Cuomos'' posting on this site?

    Answer; A whole lot!
     
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    Unfortunately lots of people. I won't lie when I say that the Nursing home death stats doesn't phase me as much as say if it were a Republican doing the same thing. It's really sad, I remember listening to Cuomo and thinking "this is what a good leader does. No matter my problems with him, at the very least he is leading", only to have him crash like this? Not good. Still, sometimes we need to ignore the bad because to do the opposite is to live in a hero-less world.

    Though I would hesitate in calling them Cuomos. Democrats are looking to impeach one of their own, have Republicans done the same with DeSantis?
     
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    Well it would help if he weren't comparing apples and oranges.
    Total deaths vs. nursing home deaths is a bit of a difference. And a difference of 604 vs a difference of more than 7000.
     
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    Probably. But honestly I needed him, and I don't know anyone in a nursing home. It's hard for me to care about those deaths when I saw the hope and joy he brought others living under the constant threat of Covid.
     
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    I feel the very same way. The comparison between Cuomo press conferences and Trump's were stark and, like you, I admired the 'leadership' shown by the former. I am, now, very concerned about the motivations behind under reporting and it needs to be investigated THOROUGHLY. The #metoo accusations are also concerning and need to be investigated. I have never been a fan of forcing people to quit/resign because of accusations, so I won't criticize his refusal to do so. After investigations/court cases are completed, I will support whatever the results reveal.
     
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    Yet when Trump said we were going to beat this thing you all acted like he tried to castrate you with a rusty hammer.
     
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    Cuomo was a good leader when we needed it the most. Trump didn't lead us through this, it was Cuomo.

    I believe the accusers though I doubt that it's because of them Cuomo is being impeached.

    Trump fed us false hope and on national television mocked Biden for wearing masks before contracting the virus himself. Cuomo appeared on CNN with his brother and talked us through it like a family. Cuomo was serious with us, he developed plans, he talked to us every day, and he made it seem like he genuinely cared and wanted to prevent the worst from ever coming true.
     
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    For your info, said 604 ''unreported'' number of non-resident deaths would change Florida's death rate ranking from the lowest to the 10th lowest.

    My message; Don't be a Cuomo, thus, tell the truth.
     
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    You thought it was false hope because you don't like Trump we are going to beat covid. But it won't be because Democrats got fed a steady diet of doom and gloom from their leadership.
     
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    Which is still better than all those blue states and their interminable lock downs.
     
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    Ha! You miss that time Cuomo called us all sluts, he had to talk about toilets, and the recommendations encouraging anal. He smiled and laughed but he didn't lie to us it seemed. Trump on the other hand? People doubt the number of lies because they can't concieve he lied literally tens of thousand times in the span of four years.
     
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    Nonsense he was lied about and misquoted thousands of times. Almost all the supposed lies were things he thought he could but was unable to do because of the intransigence of the Neocons in his own and the Demicrats.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    What point that you hated Trump but like being blamed for crap you didn't do by Cuomo who was complicit in the deaths of thousands of nursing home residents.
     
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    Whatever you need to tell yourself to fall asleep at night.
     
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    The truth helps me sleep comfortably at night. Why being brow beaten by a man complicit in the deaths of thousands of New York nursing home residents and the cover up of same pleases you I don't know.
     
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    Which is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Kristi Noem's Covid19 Figures;

    Florida's Death Rate; 1.665
    Florida's number of Covid19 deaths per 1M pop; 1,502

    NO state-wide mask mandate, NO state-wide lockdowns, NO state-wide stay at home order

    South Dakota's Death Rate; 1.667
    South Dakota's number of Covid19 deaths per 1M pop; 2,158

    NO state-wide mask mandate, NO state-wide lockdowns, NO state-wide stay at home order

    Same death rate, however, a difference to 656 deaths per 1M pop??????????

    What's the significance of 656 deaths per 1M pop?

    Florida; 656 X 21.47 million = 14,084 deaths

    Question: Am I comparing Apples and Apples, or Apples and Oranges?
     
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    And it's still good enough to be 15th on per capita death lists.
     
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    There are endless comparisons, such as;

    Among the NO State-wide mask mandate, NO state-wide lockdowns, NO state-wide stay at home

    South Dakota's number of deaths per 1M pop; 2,158

    Nebraska; 1,100

    A difference of 1,058 deaths per 1M pop

    A fair comparison?
     
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    Yet Can which licked down everything is higher. 15th per capita beats 35 other states. The point is that where you are on the per capita death rate list seems to have essentially nothing to do with lock downs mask mandates or much else. It is essentially luck of the draw.
     
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    I certainly don't disbelieve the accusers - I just want due process before condemnation. And I feel that way no matter who the accused is.
     
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    Impeachment doesn't have to be about committing crimes though. It can be about moral character as well. Is the person in office of good moral character?
     
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    Well impeachment has evolved, certainly. Moral character was ignored for four years and a new standard has been set. As well, without the thorough investigation, we don't know about the moral character. We know there are accusations, but I certainly wouldn't want to be judged without the accusations being thoroughly investigated.
     
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    Are you talking about Trump or Cuomo?
     
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    ........is it essentially luck of the draw

    HOWEVER, it is no longer ''luck of the draw'' when someone is comparing Nation's/State's death rates ''in an effort to glorify or discredit'', and making false claims.
     
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