Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by chris155au, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The anonymous source that you're referring to disputed the fire extinguisher story. And the fire extinguisher story was ITSELF from an anonymous source! So both your anonymous source and mine cancel eachother out! So do you admit that it's a false narrative that he was killed with a fire extinguisher? Of course, it's still possible that it was a fire extinguisher, but we don't know.

    It's simple - his cause of death is UNKNOWN. And that is according to this: https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick

    And it remains the case that you are now suddenly trusting official police statements, after you didn't trust the DC Police statement on the DC BLM protest when Trump did the photo op! Double standard!
     
  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That was the end of the sentence! Do you mean I left out a part of the reply section of the post? Well okay, here it is in full:

    "That is not denying that them fascists were when they, they succeeded to stop Biden becoming a president...
    It's only when they werent there...."
     
  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How does this mean that he knew that the Proud Boy would be at the speech?

    STILL no evidence that the intelligence briefings said that the Proud Boys would be there!
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2021
  5. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Are you saying that "destroying democracy" DID happen? You certainly seem to believe that a threat of pain was made! :roflol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2021
  6. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The fact is that you ended up saying that I made a CLAIM that I simply did not make!

    This just shows how utterly ignorant you are about what actually happened on January 6! Just like BLM riots happened during BLM PROTESTS (many peaceful),
    so too the Capitol riot happened during the peaceful Capitol PROTEST!

    Yes IF! You said "rioters who were very possible armed with guns!" You said "possible!"

    And even if every single one of them was armed, why didn't they take out their guns and shoot the cops who you claim they were trying to kill? What better method of killing someone is there than with a gun?

    The same cops with a different mission? :roflol:

    I'm trying to determine if you actually think that the "people who loot" DID NOT attack police. I don't think you're THAT stupid, but I can't see why in the same sentence you would refer to "fascists attacking cops" without also mentioning BLM rioters and looters attacking the cops!
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2021
  7. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I already stated that my source about being hit with a fire extinguisher goes hand in hand with MY source of the USCP saying he died from "physically engaging with protesters" / "succumbed to his injuries." Your source tosses everything in the wind as if the guy was not killed from "physically engaging with protesters" /"succumbed to his injuries". Therefor it's not just one source cancels out the other one, since your source disputes the USCP.. an official source, and so your source is ridiculous and mine is not.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2021
  8. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, that's not in full. I am going to refuse to comment since you are raping things out of context.
     
  9. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I already sourced they said so all over the social media, and Donald is all over that and he has security briefing about every week.
    So you're in no position to say he did not know who was there.

    You're just hiding behind the fact that intelligence briefings aint made public, while there is nothing obscuring about everybody knowing that the Proud Boys would be there. They advertised it.


    While I don't recall the dems giving a speech to BLM to fight like hell etc
     
  10. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you're just taking 2 words out of context to distract away from "You're the one making the claim that they came close to destroying democracy, but you don't even know how they would have done it!"

    And they could have done that. We've discussed this.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2021
  11. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only fact is, is that you took it out of context. I posted the context. You are now ignoring the context.
    So I be ignoring you whining about it.

    It's not comparable. Since the BLM were protesting for equal rights -that is pro modern norms- where some looting happened. The 6th of January was a fascist mob protesting against fair elections -caveman norms- and 300 to 400 people are wanted for physically attacking the core of the US democracy, while looking at the pictures a heck of a lot more were trespassing on the grounds of the Capitol.

    I proved they were armed, and so there is no IF.

    My point is that:
    Cops do not shoot violent fascist busy killing them,
    while not having a problem shooting a black man fleeing.

    You disputed those are the same cops. I proved you wrong.
     
  12. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The context of your conversation with Poohbear? No, I have taken that into consideration! The fact is that you ended up saying that I made a CLAIM that I simply did not make!

    So this is you admitting that BLM violence is a more justified form of violence - that violence is not violence! :roflol:

    And you continue to downplay the BLM violence by saying, "some looting happened!" Some killing and some property destruction also happened, as well as some attacking police! Yeah, I guess that it was just SOME LOOTING and nothing else! :roflol:

    "Looking at the pictures?" What pictures?

    Then why the hell did you say "rioters who were very possible armed with guns?"

    If ARMED fascists were trying to kill cops, then why didn't they use the best weapon they had (gun) for killing? :roflol:

    They cannot be the same cops if they are different cops working in a different team in a different part of the country in a different police force! :roflol:

    I'm trying to determine if you actually think that the "people who loot" DID NOT attack police. I don't think you're THAT stupid, but I can't see why in the same sentence you would refer to "fascists attacking cops" without also mentioning BLM rioters and looters attacking the cops!
     
  13. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, the human waste rioters could NOT have done anything! The only way to overturn the election would have been for enough Senators to vote against the result! You continue to give these pieces of human waste rioters WAY too much credit! :roflol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  14. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump is "all over" following the Proud Boys on social media?

    Just because they advertised that they would be there, what the hell does that have to do with intelligence briefings?

    Yes, I'm sure that the only reason that you're against Trump saying "fight like hell" is because the Proud Boys were at the speech!

    Funny how you were complaining about him saying "fight like hell" WELL before you brought Proud Boys into the discussion! :roflol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  15. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You didn't say that I left out the FULL post! You said that I left out a "part of that sentence." Anyway, here is your post in full:
    So as you can see, you said that "they succeeded to stop Biden becoming a president!" Interesting! Who is the President right now? Trump?:roflol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  16. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How the hell does "being hit with a fire extinguisher" go "hand in hand" with dying from "physically engaging with protesters" / "succumbed to his injuries?"

    Do you think that the cause of death is known or unknown at this time?

    No source which I have cited disputes the USCP statement that he died from "physically engaging with protesters" / "succumbed to his injuries!"
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  17. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The press were there, so this means that they knew that every single person in the crowd was peaceful? I don't think so! :roflol:

    Remember, your claim is that it was a totally peaceful protest and that Trump conspired with the cops to forcefully remove them for a photo op,
    under the false cover of the protesters being violent. That's a conspiracy theory!

    No, the problem is you not being able to type properly! "Press" is not the same word as "Pres!" :roflol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  18. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In no way do support violence and looting. That's just you making a personal attack. This is just you distracting away from the topic. I'm not going to respond to your BLM protest anymore.

    Pictures of fascists storming the Capitol that went global.

    Because I assumed, and later I proved it was indeed so.

    There is no if. They were armed. They found ammo, weapons, BOMBS. The entire world saw them attacking the cops with clubs and bare hands. A cop got killed. Dozens and dozens of cops got hurt. You're just being upmost dishonest to cling on to the "if" and "armed".

    And so... My point is remains:
    Cops do not shoot violent fascist busy killing them,
    while not having a problem shooting a black man fleeing.


    I already proved that cops from the Capitol used to work as cops elsewhere. It's all interchangeable.
     
  19. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And the rioters could have made the senators do that, if they would have caught them. That was the entire idea of storming the capitol. They were not there for the sake to take pictures.
     
  20. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You asked, how he could have known. And so I provided that answer.


    He told them to stand by and be ready or something before.
    Biden never even got close to saying something like that to any crowed.
     
  21. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You said that "it's not comparable. Since the BLM were protesting for equal rights!" So you clearly think that there is a difference! :roflol:

    You also said that "a heck of a lot more were trespassing on the grounds of the Capitol." What the hell is your point?

    You proved that one guy was found with a gun, but the source did not say that he was one of the rioters!

    And your claim is that these people who were armed, were trying to kill cops! So then why didn't they use the best weapon they had (gun) for killing?

    MULTIPLE cops? You mentioned one Captain or something! PATHETIC! :roflol:
     
  22. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Being hit with an object is a physical engagement.
    Dunno how you're unable to think it's not and wonder thousands of questions about it.
    Do you understand English proficiently?
     
  23. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You're assuming that the attendance of the Proud Boys is something that would have been in an intelligence briefing!

    He also told them to STAND BACK! :roflol:
     
  24. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No evidence that the idea was the catch senators and torture them into voting against Biden.
     
  25. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you think that the cause of death is known or unknown at this time? Simple question.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021

Share This Page