Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. notme

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    You're just rephrasing "Didn't Trump NOT read his intelligence briefings? Or are you now going to pretend that he was a GOOD NORMAL President?"
    And I told you to go prove your own arguments instead of asking me.



    While I don't recall the dems giving a speech to BLM to fight like hell etc....
     
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    Your point is that Trump should have known about who was in the crowd because he had the best intelligence agencies by his side. How do you know that the intelligence agencies knew who was in the crowd?
     
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    Irrelevant. You seem to not be aware that the Supreme Court rejected Trump's legal case against the election. So much for his "stooges!" Again, the Supreme Court would have got involved if every Congress member had been killed. They would have formalized the election results - it's not a complicated matter.

    And disrupt Congress and make people fear for their lives. I never said it was JUST to take photos.

    They may have WANTED to kill Pence, but they didn't come CLOSE! And even if they did, Biden would still be President! So your idea that they came close to overturning the election remains LUDICROUS! :roflol:
     
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    Your narrative is that he was killed with a FIRE EXTINGUISHER!

    Falling off a ladder isn't the only way that someone can fall! He could have fell after a rioter pushed past him!

    Sure, but it remains the case that you are now suddenly trusting official police statements, after you didn't trust the DC Police statement on the DC BLM protest when Trump did the photo op! Double standard!

    The press were there to "take the pic of the press?" What the hell are you talking about?
     
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    I'm not white washing what the human waste did. I'm just stating a FACT, that we don't know if the intent was to kill that cop, AND that it wasn't a fire extinguisher which killed him! I'm doing this to try to help you understand an alternative for why no cop shot, other than the tired old, overused RACISM accusation! The difference between us is that you don't think there is a possible alternative! Whereas I DO! I'm saying that it MIGHT be racism, but I need to see the evidence, and "no cop shot" is NOT evidence!

    You also responded to ME!

    Poohbear didn't say "entire city" either, but that's what you said in your post!

    "...they CAN use deadly force." Yes, they CAN. We agree for once!

    According to me AND you! They "CAN!" We agree for once!

    Oh, so the people who loot DID NOT attack police? Only police attacked the people who loot? :roflol:

    "Black man fleeing" is NOT a comparable police response to the Capitol riots! BLM riots ARE! And no black person was shot!

    How did you debunk it? The pathetic Wikipedia article for 'riot police?'

    Not specifically on the rioters! At least you haven't been able to support it!
     
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    Because for starters, the chairman of Proud Boys said they would be there in record numbers,... on social media.... lol
     
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    We all know that the results of the elections were being challenged in the Capitol that day.
    Lawmakers spoke for and against acknowledging the results of a couple of states. They had a vote on it.
    And here you are acknowledging a fascist mob was out to make people fear for their lives....
    but claim to be ignorant how making people fear for their lives could alter their way how they vote... a vote about who the next president would be.

    Your argument is simply utterly ridiculously child like.
    And it is yes, we all know you left out the fascist mob were out to terrorize politicians when you replied that they were there to take a photo.
     
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    You're telling me nothing new.

    That's not your narrative. Your narrative is remains unknown how he died, from an anonymous source.
    My narrative -that got blasted over the news all over- fits like a glove of what the police themselves say about it.

    In some cases, what the media finds out fits what the police tells.
    In some cases, what the media finds is absolutely not what the police tells, and are able to prove something else.
    It is what it is. Go cry me a river.

    You claimed how the press knew how it all went down, only looking at the vids.
    While the fact is, the press was present when cops beat away peaceful protesters.
    We know they were there, since they also were there to take the pic of the president.
    It's not really that hard to understand.
     
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    Them fascists were inflicting seriously bodily harm, Chris.
    Seriously bodily harm with deadly consequences, Chris.
    That gives them the full right to shoot to kill, and they did not shoot a single white fascist in all them instances.
    While cops have no problem shooting a black guy fleeing, because of the idea that they might cause bodily harm in the near future.

    The context was already set.


    And none of them did, but they have no problem shooting a fleeing black person.

    I made that comparison. You know I did it for weeks. If that's your unfounded rebuke... then bye bye.

    Indeed. And you got nothing. I care not what you find "pathetic".

    My point is that cops do not shoot violent fascist busy killing them,
    while not having a problem shooting a black man fleeing.
     
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    They feared for their lives and guess what? They voted to elect Biden!
     
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    Did not happen when the lawmakers knew a fascist mob was around....
    Take a hint.
     
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    Yes, it was delayed by a few hours. So what?
     
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    Poohbear didn't say "entire city" either, but that's what you said in your post!

    Correct.

    We don't know that.

    We don't know what procedure they were operating under. They obviously didn't feel like the situation called for shooting people, but if they did, I would have had NO problem with it!

    Oh, so the people who loot DID NOT attack police? Only police attacked the people who loot? :roflol:

    I wasn't denying that you did it for weeks! I'm simply making the point that "black man fleeing" is NOT a comparable police response to the Capitol riots! BLM riots ARE! And no black person was shot!

    You already admitted that riot cops have different gear! :roflol:

    No, your point in this part of the discussion, is that there were guns at the riot, but you're having a difficult time connecting
    them to the rioters. Jacob Blake reached into his car for a possible gun. That's why he was shot.
     
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    So you admit that it's a false narrative that he was killed with a fire extinguisher?

    The United States Captiol Police is not an "anonymous source": https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick

    No, your fire extinguisher narrative does NOT fit like a glove of what the police themselves say about it!

    Correct, just like when the media reported that the officer died after being hit with a fire extinguisher even though it was "absolutely not what the police" said. :roflol:

    Yes, but how could the press have known that every single person in the crowd was peaceful?

    The problem is that you said "take the pic of the press." Whereas it now seems that you meant, take the pic of the pres, as in President. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    All 100% correct! Like I said earlier, Getting Republicans in Congress to overturn the process would literally have been the only way to overturn the election.

    Quote me.
     
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    Source?
     
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    So when they were there, they succeeded to stop Biden becoming a president...
    Your idea of basically it's not possible to stop that, is just not true.
    They lawmakers were busy with voting, them fascist could have made them vote an other way.
     
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    They succeeded to stop Biden becoming President even though he was inaugurated on January 21? :roflol:

    How?
     
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    Poohbear said in post 19 "burning down the cities"
    I replied in post 28 "No cities were burned down."
    You replied in post 34 "Oh, so there weren't many shops which were totally burned down?"

    And I am correct that no city was burned down anywhere. You could not stand it, and dishonestly are pushing around goalpost again and again.
    I will not respond to this nonsense again.

    He died because he ENGAGED them fascists.
    Not prior, not after, not by engaging other people.
    They did it. And here you are whitewashing fascist crime.
    You must feel real proud patriot.

    Procedures? The law remains the law, and the cops can shoot under those circumstance.
    My point remains that cops do not shoot violent fascist busy killing them,
    while not having a problem shooting a black man fleeing.

    Go prove your own point.

    Of course it's comparable:
    Black man flees and gets shot multiple times by cops
    White man attacks and doesnt get shot by cops

    So what. It's still the same cop that on one hand has not problem shooting a fleeing black man, while not shooting a white fascist attacking a cop.

    They caught them red handed on the 6th of January. :banana:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-protest-cases-insight-idUSKBN29J2V8
    Others were armed during the riot: A police officer said he noticed a bulge on the hip of Christopher Alberts - who was dressed in body armor and carrying a gas mask - as he filed out of the Capitol grounds, according to court records. When they stopped him, they found a loaded handgun. Alberts’ lawyer did not respond to questions about the case.
     
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    That's my source, not your anonymous source.

    The police say he died because he physically engaged with that violent mob.
    If that mob used a fire extinguisher against that cop in any kind of physical way, than it fits the narrative of the police.

    No buts. They were there.

    The problem is you going anal.
     
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    You asked earlier how on earth this could be done as if it could not be done....

    This is all you got? Go find me that post I made in some other thread 2 weeks ago while we all know you made said that.... lol
     
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    That is not denying that them fascists were when they, they succeeded to stop Biden becoming a president...
    It's only when they werent there....

    by being what they are: violent.
     

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