Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

That is incorrect. The video shows him resisting arrest and refusing to let the police place him in the squad car.

 

no it wouldn't.

Murder3 does not require the commission of a felony. The murder is the felony.

of course it does. It's how the law works.

 

irrelovent

 

Yeah, my point is that is irrelevant.

So why do you keep bringing up the outcome of the trial?

 

it's demonstrably correct. it's on video, lol.
he was in the back of the squad car, and then pulled out. it's on video, lol.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...rs-appear-struggle-george-floyd-back-n1220856

 

yes, your post was completely irrelevant to MN law.

because it proves you wrong.

 

Under that Minnesota law, with that type of interpretation, almost anything that police do to restrain a resisting suspect could be interpreted as constituting a murder if the suspect dies, and there is reason to believe that the restraint procedures factored into that death.

This would create a totally unreasonable situation.

So obviously there is something wrong with taking the law so literally.

Police are going to be very afraid to try to do their job now.

 

Yeah, sorry, you're not being logical.

It can't "prove me wrong" if you're not willing to concede that it would "prove" you wrong if the verdict had gone the other way.

 

That is incorrect. The video shows him resisting arrest and refusing to allow the police to place him in the squad car.

You can't see anything at all in that video, except for the door of the police car.

Try this video:


He starts resisting arrest beginning around 8:30 and 39:20 (two different body cameras).

 

as it should. police are not above the law.

no it wouldn't.

it's how US law works. If you don't like the law, you are free to lobby your representatives to change it.

yes, police should definitely be afraid of murdering a subdued and handcuffed suspect.

 

of course I am. Your issue is you don't understand US law.

because I'm not playing your moronic game of what if. I'm pointing out that you are, in this discussion, incorrect.

 

I just proved this false.

 

Then it looks like you have killed Floyd, because you support an election of politicians that organize police department, that train police to confront suspects resisting arrest.

 

This is the dumbest post I've seen on this forum in a few months.

 

No you didn't. The video of him resisting arrest and not allowing the police to place him in the squad car is there for all to see.

 

Body cam clearly shows that two policemen could not hold Floyd on the right side of the car, so Chauvin ran to help them.
Why are you in denial?

 

Of course I did. I showed you the video of Floyd fully inside the squad car.

Proven false

 

I’ve proven this false. Floyd is fully inside the back seat of the squad car. Chauvin and the others pulled him back out.

 

But that is exactly the logic that you use.
Because they tried to arrest them they are the killers.

 

By whom it was proven? What was a point for Chauvin to run to the right side of the car to help to two other police officers?

 

What these people fail to consider is that if you don't deal with criminals and general abusers of strong drugs like fent/meth is they're unpredictable. People around here have no idea what procedures exist in law enforcement or how often things like this go down. The amount of youtube black belts is astounding, somehow they can discern in hindsight what they mistakenly believe is what happens in the real world.

Oh you're 100% right he should have definitely been in the hospital and not doing crimes. He did this same thing in 2019, floyd was a repeat a******.

 

Would you mind telling actual police officer that handcuffed people aren't a threat? Because you could not be more wrong about anything in the history of America.



better yet go be a police officer for while and tell us what really happens.

 

I think any reasonably intelligent person could take a guess that kneeling on someone's neck while they were hand cuffed and laying on a hard surface face down, might genuinely struggle to breathe.
And having made that educated guess might have considered changing the situation sometime during the 9 minutes spent kneeling on their neck.

I hve to wonder just how far the American police would have to go to illicit a negative reaction from certain parties. I suspect a very long way unless it was a relation of theirs, at which point humanity would suddenly reappear

 

Where the heck did you find that ridiculous video? Who's the dummy supposed to represent? A police officer so stupid he stands there while the guy on the ground repeatedly kicks him?
I am shocked how stupid police officers in America are! I thought they were trained professionals who carry pepper spray and tazers.
Now I see why your point, I hadn't realised how dim they were.

 

Look, I'm one of those rare people who believe police shouldn't be granted any special legal privileges above anyone else, but in these sort of situations you have to grant them some slack.

And even in a case where a mistake was made, even in a situation where they should face some prison time, you may still have to grant them a lot of slack.

When when the crime or mistake could be conceivably be seen as them trying to do their job, and wasn't too extremely unreasonable from the perspective of a person in that situation.

Tougher restraint procedures were not completely unjustified. The fact that he was not resisting in that exact moment discounts what had just been happening a very short time before.

Also, to point out, his exit from the car was not exactly very calm and controlled.
That could have been seen (whether wrongly or rightly) as more resisting.
That is a small factor here too, even if you don't view that as fair to the suspect.