Race and Crime

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    Words change their meaning over time. When I was a child a racist was someone who hated people of other races simply because they belonged to other races.

    Now a racist is someone who draws attention to the low average intelligence of blacks, and to their high rates of crime and illegitimacy. These are facts that are easy to document, but it is dangerous to do so. When one is accused of being a racist, truth is no defense. It is evidence for the prosecution.
     
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    It is a generalization that is more frequently true than false. When blacks complain about whites they complain about being treated as though they are potential criminals. The reason we treat them that way is because they have a high crime rate, and many of us have been victims of black criminals. During my lifetime I have been mugged, robbed at gun point, and nearly murdered by blacks. This has happened to my friends and relatives too. Whites, Orientals, and Hispanics have never done that to me. I have learned to avoid the approach of young black men I do not know, unless they are obviously dressed for work or church.
     
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    With such a high %, it can't only mean that even the majority of black people acknowledge this.
    /facepalm
     
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    It remains so that you're in no position to discredit HRW an Hamilton based on your little puny opinion.

    Point remains I proved that racism is institutionalized.
    Don't be naive about it.
     
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    Statistically. It's actually the white people who commit more drug related crimes. White people also got more infractions with the law when pulled over. Yet black people are systematically arrested on a far higher rate on drugs and pulled over a heck of a lot too. That results in very high % of black people behind bars while it should be a slightly higher % of white people behind bars. The correlation who the police arrests with who commits a crime is totally gone due to racism. Sure the cops also arrest far more black people as well for violent crimes. Yet most violent crimes go unsolved. This is disregarded and only figures who the police arrests are used to prove who commits the crime. It's remains a proven fallacy that cops arrest the % of the ethnicity anywhere near to % of the crime they take part in.

    Systemic racism is actually true phenomena. The generalization is far more frequently true than false. The predominantly white society does not only have a history chapter of exceptionally racism against black people, pushing them into severe poverty. It's still very much alive even though it's illegal/wrong. Black people -for instance- endure a much higher % of violence from the police even when they do not get arrested or ticketed. And it gets done without any repercussion of the racists who do this. This all adds to finding it all normal to keep that oppressive racism institutionalized.

    Your post fits right in that culture to support institutionalized racism without any kind of repercussion.
     
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    Drug related crimes do not concern me. Robbery does concern me. So does murder. Blacks have high rates of robbery and murder.
     
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    Racism concerns me. People who support racism is a concern to the general population.

    Black people have a higher incarceration rate for robbery and murder.... just like they have a higher incarceration rate for drugs.
    White people doing/selling slightly more results in 650% more black people in jail over drug related offenses due to systemic racism.
    That the incarceration rate of robbery and murder of black people is higher than white people means nothing.
     
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    I am a race realist. I believe that race is an important biological classification of humans, similar to sub species among animals, and breeds among domesticated animals. I believe that the races differ significantly in average intelligence, as well in rates of crime and illegitimacy. These differences are the result evolving in response to different population pressures lasting for thousands of years. Evolving in cold climates selects genetically for intelligence and monogamy. Evolving in civilizations selects genetically for intelligence and obedience to the law. This is the reason the two civilized races of whites of European origins and Orientals have higher IQ averages and lower rates of crime and illegitimacy than Negroes.

    The assertions of race realism can be verified with credible statistics taken from the internet. As time goes on genes for intelligence and criminal behavior are being discovered, despite taboos and sanctions against looking for them.

    As far as some people are concerned, race realists are racists by definition. I do not care. When I am called a racist, as I frequently am, I ask "What did I say that is not true?"
     
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    Blacks have higher incarceration rates for robbery and murder than whites and Orientals because they have higher rates of robbery and murder than whites and Orientals.
     
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    Are factual criticism of the Negro race racist? By every objective, measurable criterion blacks tend to be significantly less intelligent than whites. Blacks have an illegitimacy rate over twice the white rate, and a murder rate that is nearly eight times the white rate. It would be easy for me to document those assertions. Do you think I am a racist for pointing them out.
     
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    Tell that lie to Ahmaud Arbery , Trayvon Martin and the 2,000 plus black victims of hate crimes done by whites every year. Furthermore...

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    Not according to the Uniform Crime Reports each year. According to that report whites commit 2.5 times more crime than blacks do annually. And don't try that per capita crap. Because if you multiply the black population by 5 things in America change dramatically and black crime would actually be reduced.
     
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    No, that's not the reason. But you're a racist so you'll repeat this. And don't try that silly

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    bs with me junior. I will take you to school.
     
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    Incorrect. There is a million studies shown the racism in the justice system, therefore pretending that a sentence always meand a person is guily is intellectually lazy and ignorant.

    There is only one correct measurement pf crime; that would be the actual number of people participating in it. When we look at it that way, whites are the most criminal. And instead of using entire population, which again is intellectually lazy, you take the number of arrested citizens and make them a population. Then you divide those numbers against the U.S. population to get a percentage. When you do that, again, more whites are crime participants. Now if you want to look at historical trends, whites have been far and away to major participants in crime.
     
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    Your criticism is not factual and you don't apply the same amount of criticism foe a race that has committed wonton acts of incredible violence throughout U.S. histro and present ---

    WHITES.
     
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    What if people are racist first and than look around on the internet to see what all fits in their agenda, and never mind what does not? You even acknowledge that they found no gene at all that makes one smarter and less criminal. You should also be aware that you can train some animals to do about anything. That also goes for it's behavior. Mistreating a white dog for being white, and cuddling a black dog for being black will have a big impact on how they behave, and it has nothing to do with genetics. it's all over the internet that systemic racism is true, with credible statistics. Such things how systemic racism shapes society clearly doesn't fit your agenda. And so I ask as well, what did I say that is not true.
     
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    You do not know if they have higher rates of robbery and murder than whites, just because the police incarcerates them more. It is so since most violent crime goes unsolved and there is no correlation between who the cops arrest and who does the crime. Everybody is able to find that white people are more involved in drug related crimes than black people, yet black people are incarcerated far more on this due to systemic racism. The difference, and I have sourced this, is around 650%.

    Do note, criminals like drug users and sellers are prawn to commit violent crime. It ranges from gang related killings, robberies to pay for the addiction to domestic abuse.

    Do also note. Applying racism is also criminal. And statistically it shows that black people are on the short end of racial injustice on a broad scale... because other races do that to them. The finger goes out to white people. How that does work with your assumption that white people are less criminal is beyond me. And... your claim black people are more criminal because they are black does not compute to the fact that white people commit mor drug related crimes, as in deal / selling.
     
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    You care not that whites commit more drug related crimes, because it doesn't suit your agenda. And I already responded to that flaw about the murder rate. Do also note that a thing like genocide and brutal oppression is exceptionally lavishly present in the history of the Arian race. It were the Arians and Jews in the US who violently murdered out the native Americans, for the sake to make room for their culture of making black people work the land under a murderous regime. That is the foundation of the US. We can discuss Germany if you like. But since it doesn't fit your agenda about who is more criminal / violent... I doubt you actually care.



    Let me jab one more in.
    It's written in the Jewish religious text that the Jewish god massacred the totally innocent brown Egyptian babies so the Jews were able to march to the land of Canaan. The Jews committed genocide on the people of Canaan with the blessing of their God. This is a cruel but accurate description of their believe and still is the foundation why Jews claim the real estate of Israel and beyond. Christians absolutely widely support this. Since it's part of their bible as well. Christianity is a native Arian believe.

    This doesn't fit your argument that it's not the Arians (and Jews) who are more violent at all. You probably disregard it since those lives do not matter, right?
     
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    You have not answered my question. That question again: is it racist to draw attention to black low average intelligence, and high rates of crime and illegitimacy?
     
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    Excuses. Excuses. Even blacks know that blacks tend to be more dangerous than whites.

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    When I was a child, a teenager, and a young adult I made excuses for blacks myself. When I got older I got tired of making making excuses for those people. Now I am tired of hearing excuses for them.
     
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    If someone wants to poison his body will hard drugs, that is his business. If he robs me it is my business.
     
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    MIT Technology Review, April 2, 2018
    by TIM LAHAN

    A year ago, no gene had ever been tied to performance on an IQ test. Since then, more than 500 have, thanks to gene studies involving more than 200,000 test takers. Results from an experiment correlating one million people’s DNA with their academic success are due at any time.

    The discoveries mean we can now read the DNA of a young child and get a notion of how intelligent he or she will be.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/20...coming-but-it-might-not-be-smart-to-take-one/

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    BBC News, 28 October 2014

    A genetic analysis of almost 900 offenders in Finland has revealed two genes associated with violent crime.

    Those with the genes were 13 times more likely to have a history of repeated violent behaviour.

    The authors of the study, published in the journal Molecular Psychiatry, said at least 5-10% of all violent crime in Finland could be attributed to individuals with these genotypes.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29760212

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    Despite the sanctions and taboos against looking for them, gene alleles for intelligence and crime are being discovered. In the future many more will be discovered. Anti racists want to suppress this research, because they fear the political results of it.
     
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    I am disputing your claims that lies in the question. When people claim a certain ethnicity has a lower intelligence due to their skin color, than indeed... it's racist because there is no scientific prove to link one with the other. You only got a casual correlation. Same thing with the high crime rates. You're concluding that from data about who the cops arrest, wrongfully assuming the cops do their jobs correctly. I argued cops don't do their jobs correctly and sourced that extensively in this thread.
     
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    You're excusing that the white oppressed about the entire world under their thug violent rule for centuries where ethnic cleansing and genocide was a policy applied everywhere they went,... to wrongfully claim black people are more dangerous.
     
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    A crime is a crime, and the cops aren't doing their jobs correctly in arresting those who breach the law.
    Don't go make excuses over it.
     
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