The "Great Unraveling" continues.

Judge rules Dominion case can proceed against Trump allies

WASHINGTON — A federal judge cleared the way Wednesday for a defamation case by Dominion Voting Systems to proceed against Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Lindell, allies of former President Donald Trump who had all falsely accused the company of rigging the 2020 presidential election.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols ruled that there was no blanket protection on political speech and denied an argument from two of the defendants that the federal court in Washington wasn’t the proper venue for the case.

“As an initial matter, there is no blanket immunity for statements that are ‘political’ in nature,” the judge wrote in the 44-page ruling.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ase-can-proceed-against-trump-allies-n1276632

 

The House Dems are vindicated in their request.

The income tax returns of former President Donald Trump must be released by the IRS to Congress, the Department of Justice said Friday.

The DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel said the Democratic-led House Ways and Means Committee had made a request with a legitimate legislative purpose to see Trump’s tax returns, with a stated objective of assessing how the IRS audits presidents’ tax returns.

That 39-page opinion is a reversal of an opinion by the same office, during the Trump administration, which had backed the IRS’ refusal to give the committee Trump’s returns.

Under federal law, the tax-related committees of Congress have a “broad right” to obtain taxpayer information from the Treasury Department, the IRS’ parent, the new opinion noted.

 

Something happened with the quote function - stuff that Lee wrote got jarbled together with stuff that I wrote -- which is not your fault .. think it was mine.

In any case .. 1) Pauls suspiscions in 2013 were indeed confirmed by the Declassified DOD reports - who at the time had no agenda other than to warn the Obama admin that the Syrian "Rebels" were dominated by radical Islamist Jihadists.

2) The 13 bipartisan in congress who co-signed the "Stop arming terrorist act" were indeed credible - as were the gazillion other sources reporting on the situation in Syria - as is the DOD source.

3) Obama knew full well who he was arming .. by mid 2013 the Islamists had taken over most of Syria and declared an Islamic State - every major city in Syria was controlled by these nut-jobs - either Al Qaeda or ISIS.

Where then did the Obama's so called "Moderate Rebels" Live ? - which he continued to arm for another 6 years - with sophisticated US technology. We can't name any major battle fought by these "moderates". It was a complete lie .. aka The "Moderate Rebel Lie"

 

Ah the sometimes wacky forum.

 

Typo - continued to arm for another 3 years not 6 as written ..

 

I vaguely recall debunking all that nonsense once before. Do you remember what the thread title was?

 

On Saturday, Rosen appeared before the Senate committee to deliver his account directly. Donoghue testified as well. During a seven-hour interview, Rosen emphasized how he and other senior leaders resisted Trump’s entreaties.

“The president was persistent with his inquiries, and I would have strongly preferred that he had chosen a different focus in the last month of his presidency,” he said in his opening statement, according to a person familiar with the testimony, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the closed-door session. “But as to the actual issues put to the Justice Department, DOJ consistently acted with integrity, and the rule of law held fast.”

Rosen said he thought Trump’s claims about voting irregularities were “misguided, and I disagreed with things that President Trump suggested the Justice Department do with regard to the election. So we did not do them.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...500618-fabd-11eb-8a67-f14cd1d28e47_story.html

When does the trial start?

 

Rudolph W. Giuliani’s promise of a “big surprise” to help Donald Trump’s election in October 2016 led to Democratic accusations the FBI was feeding him secrets about an investigation of Hillary Clinton.

But a newly obtained transcript shows the former New York mayor told federal agents it was okay to “throw a fake” when campaigning, to which his then-law partner added, “there’s no obligation to tell the truth.”

Giuliani’s comments came in a 2018 interview with agents for the Justice Department inspector general, conducted in a room at Trump’s hotel in downtown Washington. The Project on Government Oversight, a government watchdog group, sued for a copy of the interview transcript and provided it to The Washington Post on Wednesday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...4e9b4c-fabc-11eb-9c0e-97e29906a970_story.html

Just another piece of slime associated with Individual 1.

 

More Alarming Details Emerge About The Extent Of The Coup Campaign At DOJ
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckr...-about-the-extent-of-the-coup-campaign-at-doj

An absolutely shocking picture of what Trump tried to do is still emerging.

 

You did not debunk anything - you think you would remember having it handed to you so many times.

When did you Debunk the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" ? Were the 13 bipartisan co-signers to this bill involved in some conspiracy to degrade Obama's legacy ? along with Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard who introduced this bill in 2017 .

Tell of this conspiratorial fantasy .. that included the Department of Defense back in 2012 - how did you "debunk" the declassified memo's to the white house ?

Don't forget to tell us about the NY-Times involvement .. all their reporting on "No moderate Rebels" back in 2013 ..after the Islamist Jihadists had taken over most of Syria .. controlling every city .. just prior to the formation of a new "Islamic State" .. a State which Obama armed supplied and supported for another 3 years .. arm in arm with Brother El Saud - and a large coalition of other nations - to rid us of the Evil Assad.

And of course the hundreds of other sources saying the same thing .. but - this was before Obama's "Moderate rebel Lie" .. the NY-Times quicky forgetting previous coverage .. along with your beloved Madow.

How did you debunk the "Moderate Rebel Lie" ? Which major city did these "Moderates" occupy .. What battle did they win ? Where was this "Moderate" Front Line ? .. at any time after 2013 ? When Obama was "Officialy" authorizing sophisticated weapons to this mystery moderate army - that didn't exist - except in the hotel boardrooms ...

 

The more detail you provide the more my lapse of memory is restored. The key flaw in your assertion and one you never proved was the claim the arms that fell in to the hands of forces fighting against US interests on purpose. That we intentionally armed the enemy. The idea is just as ludicrous, and unproven, now as it was when you first asserted it.

 

The "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" - was precipitated on the fact that indeed we did intentionally arm the enemy. What part of "We have been arming both directly and indirectly - Al Qaeda-ISIS and others of the same ilk - for Years" did you not understand ?

So don't shoot the messenger - if you think Tulsi/Rand - and the 13 Bipartisan co-sponsors to this bill were lying - the "Ludicrous - Unproven" flailing around is on you.

You havn't even addressed this obviously troubling fact .. these bipartisan members of congress stating directly - we were arming Al Qaeda/ISIS - after enough time had passed for all the dirt to come out .. we are talking 2017 - when the war was ending .. Russia having defeated the Islamic State ... in all locations but our protectorate - Racca - which we then destroyed with the help of the kurds - last remaining stronghold of the Islamic State..

Obama's "moderate rebel lie" .. you said you had debunked it ... running around scraming "Ludicrous - Unproven" is not grounds for debunking anything .. Show us these Moderates that existed in force after the Islamic State formed in 2013 - when all the Islamist Jihadists - and the foreign fighters coalesced into a new state .. Al Qaeda occupying some districts .. ISIS the others.. Where was the "Moderate District" ?

back up your claim that there was some moderate force ..rather than running and hiding as you have been doing.

 

The "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" - was precipitated on the unproven allegation that indeed we did intentionally arm the enemy.

Put on your logic hat, if you can find it, and ask yourself why we would intentionally arm the enemy.

 

“It used to be fun to be an election clerk, but it isn’t any more,” he added.

Nine months after the 2020 election, local officials across the country are coping with an ongoing barrage of criticism and personal attacks that many fear could lead to an exodus of veteran election administrators before the next presidential race.

“The complaints, the threats, the abuse, the magnitude of the pressure — it’s too much,’’ said Susan Nash, a city clerk in Livonia, Mich., who has contended with ongoing questions about the integrity of the process in her community.

As Trump continues to promote the false notion that the 2020 White House race was tainted by fraud, there is mounting evidence that his attacks are curdling the faith that many Americans once had in their elections — and taking a deep toll on the public servants who work to protect the vote.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2cf002-f9ed-11eb-9c0e-97e29906a970_story.html

 

Was not an unproven allegation - "We have been arming Al Qaeda - ISIS" was stated defacto on the floor of congress .. and on CNN for that matter.

What was CNN's Response Mr. Logic ... surely they would cry "NO NO NO" and show these allegations false. Not a wimper .. Silence .. because we all know the allegations are true .. as per the 13 Bipartisan in Congress but .. just basic Logic.

We know there were no "Moderates" after the formation of the Islamic State - and those arms had to be going somewhere .. We have Declassified DOD memos detailing massive arms shippments - We brought all the stuff from the war in Yugoslavia over to Syria.

We intentionally armed the enemy because we wanted to take out Assad .. and the people willing to do it were the Islamist Jihadists. Syria was not the only nation we fighting alongside Al Qaeda - they were with us .. arm in arm with Brother El Saud - in Yemen as well.

It is you who keeps on avoiding logic and reality .. Show us this Moderate Force that Obama was giving TOW missiles to - we have video of Al Qaeda using them in battle.

Only a complete moron would put weapons into that situation and think they would not end up in the hands of Radical Islamists - as radical Isalamists were the only ones doing the fighting and we knew this since 2012 - as per declassified DOD memo's -and numerous other sources.

Where are these "Moderates" you keep pretending exist ?

 

Stating it on the floor of Congress in no way makes it a "de facto" assertion. Nor do the comments of Gabbard or Paul or anyone else without evidence. Goodness knows how many lies Paul has told.

Making an error in judgement and doing something intentionally are not the same.

In 2013, the CIA operated a program that both trained and armed Syrian rebels in an attempt to support stronger opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The program had some unintended consequences — at times, weapons intended for Syrian rebels were stolen and sold on the black market, for example — but it was never designed to "train ISIS Jihadists," as the post claims.

"Obama ordered CIA to train ISIS Jihadists," reads the over-the-top headline.

The blog post bases its claims primarily on a once-classified Defense Intelligence Agency document obtained by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group.

On top of falsely alleging that Obama ordered the CIA to intentionally train members of ISIS, the post claims the released document confirms the United States and its partners "actually facilitated the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) as an effective adversary against the government of the Syrian dictator President Bashar al-Assad."
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...g/obama-never-ordered-cia-train-members-isis/

I'm done here. Better luck next time.

 

What a joke of a post - you come up with some nonsense blog - which Politifact tries to refute. None of which addresses the fact that Obama armed -supported and supplied Islamist Jihadists. The contested item is about "Training" whether or not the CIA trained these Jihadists ..which is not a claim I have made.

What politifact does say - "In YOUR link"

Politifact accepts the claim of the declassified document from Judicial watch that in 2012 the Jihadists were running the show.

You have agreed that Obama armed "the rebels" after 2013 - when the Islamic State was totally in control - no moderates to be found anywhere according to the NY-Times - and a zillion other outlets.

Who are these Moderates to which all these arms were flowing to ? The claim that Obama didn't know who he was arming is Laughable nonsense on steroids .. as the whole world knew who the Anti Assad fighting force was .. as they created new Islamic State - and were posting video's of atrocity all over the web.

You want to claim Obama's "Moderate Rebel Lie" was not a lie .. but you have yet to come up with where these fighting force of moderates was located - battles fought - cities under the control of these moderates.

Tough sledding when your own link supports everything I have been telling you. Did you miss that part ? - as you previously cried .. Fake Fake when shown the declassified DOD memo .. inferring that there was some kind of conspiracy in the DOD - such that this memo was "Biased"

Do you now understand that there were no moderates in 2014 when Obama started touting the "Moderate Rebel Lie" ? Something your own link confirms.

 

Essentially, the document seems to say that the groups it identified as the "major forces" in the region supporting Syrian rebels hoped to establish a Salafist state in Eastern Syria. The document did not say the United States considered supporting this outcome, however.

Face it. You have not come close to proving your assertion because the facts don't support it. IT ISN'T TRUE.

 

Maybe but more likely it is fear.

 

My God, the corruption of Trump and his cabinet is already legendary.

 

And Trump gave most of his Admin waivers to engage in this "corruption".

 

It will certainly out do the corrupt and phony Reagan administration! Hands down!!!
Dems wouldnt understand, its a GOP thing!

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/russia-investigation/

Good stuff.

 

Face what - I never said the document supported the outcome. All I used from the document was the fact that in 2012 - the "rebels" were already dominated by Islamists.

Further ..the document does say that we were supporting the rebels so you have no clue what you are talking about - . - but we don't need the document for that .. As Obama himself claimed to be supporting the rebels.

The one who has no command of the Facts is You. Now who were these "Moderate Rebels" Obama and friends were arming ? and why do you keep running from this question ?

 

After stating they were unprovable...