Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

You're just being dishonest by leaving the thing out that matters the most and what I have been saying all along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting

As Rittenhouse was running from Rosenbaum, two shots could be heard, one from an unknown third party, fired for an unknown reason, and one from Joshua Ziminski, who fired a self-described "warning shot" into the air,[37] causing Rittenhouse to stop running and turn towards the sound of Ziminski's shot.[6] McGinniss stated that the sound of the shot was the moment Rittenhouse "went from running away to aiming his weapon."[37]

Then, according to Kenosha County prosecutors, Rosenbaum engaged Rittenhouse and tried to take his rifle from him

 

There it is right there. The same eyewitness I mentioned above testifying that Rittenhouse had a legal right to self defense.

Thank you for that.

 

@Death

Remember when you said it was an "unarmed protest"?



I don't think all the protestors got the memo.

 

Kyle is a hero, who righteously self defended himself to the deaths of 2 terrorists, and sent one running to his mommy. Great job kid!

 

Aiming his WEAPON AT THE GROUND, you quoted McGinniss which his full statement said he was aiming the gun at a 45deg angle at the ground.. again I posted a video of McGinniss again talking about that happened..

Regardless even hypothetically if he turned around and aimed at him right away, THE PEDOPHILE IS THE ONE WHO ATTACKED HIM FIRST AND RAN AFTER HIM TO TRY TO ATTACK HIM AGAIN!

You cant try and say that the pedophile was acting in self defense when he started the fight and then chased him.. HE is the attacker, Kyle was the defender!

 

The video shows exactly what happened, but you keep pretending otherwise to our amusement.

 

I'm seriously trying to figure out what the significance of Rittenhouse stopping and turning when he heard gunshots is supposed to be. @notme keeps tossing it out like it's some sort of "GOTCHA!" for some weird reason.

First off, it's perfectly understandable that Rittenhouse would stop and prepare to defend himself when gunshots started popping off.

Second, Rittenhouse had already displayed plenty of "duty to retreat" by trying to run away from the lunatic who was chasing him. Even though he wasn't legally required to, he still did it, and clearly demonstrated that he was trying to disengage from the situation, and he certainly wasn't the antagonist.

Third, Rittenhouse had every legal right to stop and "stand his ground" gunshots or no gunshots. There is absolutely no legal obligation to run from an attacker until your heart bursts or your attacker catches you. Self defense isn't a contest of endurance, or a game of tag.

Last, the gunshots only work in Rittenhouse's favor, because they were proof positive that he was involved a life-threatening situation, and he was in imminent peril, and self defense was totally justified.

 

It seriously does seem like he's doing a silly dance for our entertainment.

 

Getting a weapon aimed at you, is not a dubious claim at all.

False? I actually already have proved that aiming = assault.
I linked people doing that and subsequently got convicted for assaulting people. lol

Yeah. I see how you think that, when in your special world aiming a weapon isn't assaulting a person.... but it is.

Again. I already proved it is. This completely turns the tables, so sorry.

Nope. He would be prone to pedophilia. And that's not on the table.
While that alcoholic adoring far right wing white nationalistic violence is exactly in the right ally.

 

Careful, you’ll wind up on “ignore” where logic and reason cannot penetrate.
Speaking of, I wouldn’t be surprised if the kid diddler was trying to get kyles pants off. Too bad those before Kyle were unarmed.

 

I just sourced that McGinnis said in court under oath that the alcoholic who supports a violent far right wing white nationalistic gang, heard a gun shots and subsequently turned around and aimed his weapon. Who the hell cares what he says on youtube?

 

I dont care about your opinion. What matters is what is being said under oath in court.

 

I hear the witness say that directly after the gun fire, it is Rittenhouse turning around... and aiming his weapon at Rosenbaum. That is assault by Rittenhouse. I proved that, and you're in denial.

 

The witness says the same thing on that vid of yours.. at 4.34.
He turns around IMMEDIATELY after the gunshot. The gun shot is visible on the vid. And at that point he went from running with his weapon to turning around and AIMING.

I have said this all along.

 

Your laws are no different in regards to self defense and I practiced criminal law in the US lol.

 

I never argued Rittenhouse was required to use his fists. Your attempt to engage me with a passive aggressive insult speaks for itself.

 

Kyle legit did nothing wrong at all. He defended himself

 

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Why are yousing exclamation marks?

 

You are well aware Rosenbaum did not sexually assault him.

 

Then practice what you preach in reverse Dude.

 

It is a video and it has to be interpreted by the jury and before that it will be explained by lawyers on both sides and could be commented on by expert witnesses. A video's probative value may in fact be less relevant than an expert witness interpreting the video or an eye witness testifying. It depends on how credible either are not your arbitrary designation. You clearly do not understand how expert witnesses or witnesses are used are used in regards to videos.

 

no your source is wikipedia and McGinnis told the authorities that the gun was pointed DOWN, I have quoted you this several times but here it is again..

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/0...-in-kenosha-shooting-that-killed-2-wounded-1/

"McGinnis said once Rittenhouse got to the black car in the parking lot, he had the gun raised, but pointed downward. Rittenhouse then brought the gun up, stepped back, and apparently fired three rounds in rapid succession, McGinnis told prosecutors."

 

Are you just being a smart ass or do you really not know why an exclamation point is used?

 

again he aimed it at the ground so stop with this fake news.. and regardless he has every legal right to turn around and point his gun at the guy chasing him anyway. here is the law..

"Although intentionally pointing a firearm at another constitutes a violation of s. 941.20, under sub. (1) a person is privileged to point a gun at another person in self-defense if the person reasonably believes that the threat of force is necessary to prevent or terminate what he or she reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference. State v. Watkins, 2002 WI 101, 255 Wis. 2d 265, 647 N.W.2d 244, 00-0064."

https://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2014/chapter-939/section-939.48

So thats a lot of effort on your part to push this fabrication and it doesn't even matter because he can legally do what you have been saying anyway.. lol

 

Only if you ignore that he was illegally in possession of a firearm, violating curfew and brandishing a weapon could you arrive that he “did nothing wrong”. Our court system will determine if adding murder to that list is appropriate.