Oregon Governor signs new law allowing students to graduate without proving they can read, write, or

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  1. drluggit

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    Democrats, clearly, want an uneducated, easy to control public for their future experimentation on. First steps in a road of many to come.
     
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    A truly ignorant statement not based in facts. But then, this is typical for what passes as cocktail conversation at democratic fundraisers these days....
     
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    what do you disagree with?

    did you support Bush's "no child left behind"?
     
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    Your characterization that no child left behind ignored standards. Flatly false assertion on your part. Did you assume folks just wouldn't remember and not call you on it?
     
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    are you saying that the "no child left behind", did not move children up a grade even if they were not ready? as that IS what happened

    back when I was in school, people actually got left behind, they either learned or they did not advance a grade
     
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    It helps government. It ensure a higher graduation rate. That is hurts the students is immaterial to authoritarians.
     
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    Almost precisely the opposite.

    The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB)[1][2] was a U.S. Act of Congress that reauthorized the Elementary and Secondary Education Act; it included Title I provisions applying to disadvantaged students.[3] It supported standards-based education reform based on the premise that setting high standards and establishing measurable goals could improve individual outcomes in education. The Act required states to develop assessments in basic skills. To receive federal school funding, states had to give these assessments to all students at select grade levels.

    The act did not assert a national achievement standard—each state developed its own standards.[4] NCLB expanded the federal role in public education through further emphasis on annual testing, annual academic progress, report cards, and teacher qualifications, as well as significant changes in funding.[3]
    No Child Left Behind Act - Wikipedia
     
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    The largest economy on the planet. Remember that, if we put Russia's GDP in a list of individual U.S. state GDP's Russia would only rank #5 barely ahead of #6. Russia would be one of the largest of the 50 U.S. states economically but would not represent a meaningful economy to the total of U.S. states.
     
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    that may have been the original intention, but as we all know that is not what happened
     
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    ?????One of the biggest complaints at the time was that students were being held back a grade because they didnt pass the new, required tests.
     
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    yep, and that fear was unfounded, as what happened was people were moved up a grade regardless if ready or not
     
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    If that happened anywhere it was in spite of the No Child Left Behind legislation which called for precisely the opposite, not because of it. And it certainly reduced the frequency of such promotions to the next grade without achievement of the previous grade.
     
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    yep, like the Affordable Care Act not going as planned is not Obama's fault right

    the fact is, that is what happened, regardless what Bush dreamed it would be

    Nixon though the war on drugs would end drug abuse

    Nixon though the food pyramid would make Americans healthier

    things do not always go as intended
     
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    see what happens when you try to censor a post, you mess up the post, I had to add a "." to even get a quote box when replyign to you
     
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    https://www.ecs.org/high-school-graduation-requirements/
    High School graduation requirements probably vary from state to state.

    Oregon Standard 4, incl. equivalent of 1 unit written composition 3, incl. 1 algebra I and 2 units at a level higher than algebra I 3, incl. history, civics, geography and economics (including personal finance) 3 2, incl. 1 P.E. and 1 health Multiple options:

    3 units chosen from CTE, the arts or world languages Multiple options:

    3 units chosen from CTE, the arts or world languages - Multiple options:

    3 units chosen from CTE, the arts or world languages
     
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    Yes, yes ... the crazy capitalization of Facebook, Twitter and the like is a great economy. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    We are 4.25% of the worlds population but produce 16.8% of the worlds manufactured goods. 2nd largest producer of Agricultural products. Largest producer of fossil fuels before Joe took over.
     
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    You forgot to write that the US contribution to world GDP is, according to various estimates, from 18% to 25%. But the share of the United States in consumption is about 35-42%.
    At the same time, in the share of US capitalization in world GDP, these are different Facebook, Twitter, Hollywood products and other components that do not matter.
    But the United States consumes specific goods and raw materials from global GDP.
    Look at the external and internal US debts.
    These debts will never be paid back. The United States is actually economically bankrupt.
    The only thing that saves the situation is that with the collapse of the United States, the entire world economy will collapse.
    Therefore, they are trying to postpone this collapse with all their might. And the question of the collapse of the US economy is not in the meaning of "possible", but in the meaning of "when."
     
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    I was solidly in agreement until you blamed it all on "capitalism".

    Democrats and their incessant 'socialism-lite', featuring numerous handout welfare programs are BY FAR more to blame than free-market capitalism.

    As we have become more immersed in something-for-nothing government welfare programs, we have, indeed, become much more dumbed-down as a nation -- and you're right in perceiving that we see clear signs of it EVERYWHERE in the U. S
    today....
     
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    More Democratic voters. No signature to check against ID at the polls.
     
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    if any child makes it to grade 12 without being able to read or write, a school has bigger issues - kinda late to test them right before graduation
     
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    Well, no one wants to deny a boy his dreams.
     
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    No it didn't . Precisely the opposite.
     
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    Does Oregon Allow H.S. Students to Graduate Without Proof of Reading, Math Proficiency? | Snopes.com

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    Oregon Senate Bill 744, signed into law in July 2021, allows students to graduate from high school without having to prove they can read, write, or do math.
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    SB 744 extended the temporary suspension of Oregon's Essential Learning Skills prerequisite, meaning that until 2024 at the earliest, high school students do not have to pass standardized tests in several academic skill areas in order to obtain a high school diploma.

    What's False
    SB 744 did not alter or remove the existing and continued requirement, in state law, that Oregonian high school students must obtain at least 24 credits, including in English, mathematics and science classes, in order to get a high school diploma — a less standardized but still substantial form of de facto proof that a given student possesses many of the same basic academic competencies in question.
     
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