Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Repeating yourself doesn't change my response.

    There is no CHOICE unless the companies are footing the bill for the regular testing and how long will they do that until they stop and REQUIRE the vaccination?

    It's extortion. You can dress that up however you want but that's what it is.
     
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    there was 3 choices
     
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    Was Biden trusting the science during the campaign when he promised a 7 fold increase in testing or was he trusting the science after inauguration when testing rates fell precipitately?
     
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    And there in lies the rub.

    Someone vaccinated is more than likely either going to have no symptoms or mild symptoms and not even be aware they have it. And are spreading it. All we know is that of those we are aware of...enough of the vaccinated have been caught with it in their systems for this to be something to make the difference between vaccinated and not vaccinated matter much except to the individual.
     
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    OK, Freshair, if that helps you feel better.

    It's easy to stand on the sideline in judgment of other people facing a serious challenge to stay employed but it's not fun when it happens to you personally.

    I hope you are never faced with the possibility of paying hundreds of dollars for something your employer REQUIRES or getting something injected into your body that you don't want or losing your job. Those "options" aren't options when you have a family to support.
     
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    I do not support the mandates any more then I support the 6 week abortion law in TX

    both laws support a nanny government deciding for us

    and I just playing with them.... if they support laws like the one in TX, then they should support this one

    I think this mandate is making them see the slippery slope TX created
     
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    Not quite: the vaccinated have a FAR better chance of still not getting the virus at all, and if they do, of not having to go to the hospital. So, there is a grave difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
     
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    The difference is X number of people are going to get a vaccine they do NOT want or be forced to pay out-of-pocket for testing on whatever schedule their employers requires or will lose their jobs BEFORE this can be adjudicated and stopped.

    The law in TX is already passed.
     
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    Yes b...... b...... b...... b..... bu..... bu..... bu..... bu..... but BENGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    and the others will be forced to have a baby they do not want...

    one is forced to get a jab they don't want

    in both cases the gov is deciding for them


    best to be pro-choice in both
     
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    Women facing an unwanted pregnancy beyond the six weeks law in TX can travel across state lines or go to a midwife or private doctor to obtain an abortion.

    People forced to get vaccinated can't have the vaccination removed if it causes problems.
     
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    So if we give pregnant women three choices:

    1) adoption or institutionalization at birth
    2) raise the child with state assistance
    3) raise the child without state assistance

    That’s three choices.
     
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    How do we know that? Since the vaccinated are now showing up in reports like the one I mentioned WITH the virus. This report is only referring to more than mild cases. You wouldn't even know if someone who is asymptomatic is walking around with the high viral load of covid. Nobody would know unless we just randomly tested people periodically. Which we don't.
     
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    That's a great point. Look around the forum at all the people complaining about having to pay for people to get Public Aid. They are usually the anti-abortion ones. So, they want to usurp a woman's right to her own body, force her to have a baby she does NOT want and whine about having their tax dollars go to help her with housing, food and insurance. Wow.
     
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    I would rather my taxes went to helping an American born child have a chance at life regardless that they are inconvenient then to pay to house men from other countries who do not share or care about American ideals and who may or may not be criminals. Because nobody seems to care at this point so long as they vote blue.

    Since the majority of abortions are on black kids, I guess that makes me racist for trying to save them? damn.
     
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    Yes.I’ve said before abortion advocates are not good marketers. They think the “Darwin award” makes a clever sales pitch for vaccination, why not use it to sell abortion?
     
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    What kind of tax increase are you willing to support to fund the increase in welfare/LE/prisons/education etc

    IMO a much better approach would be to prevent the unplanned pregnancies in the first place, so there would be no need for abortion, or raising unplanned kids.
     
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    Simple. The people that want to tell women what to do with their bodies typically aren't biologically able to get pregnant and they have no interests in the "sanctity of life" once the umbilical cord gets cut. Doesn't matter how many of these unwanted children are abused, neglected, sexually exploited, abandoned and murdered. Let's keep stockpiling them for the traffickers. If they paid even half as much attention to what's happening in foster homes, group homes and juvenile detention centers, they'd realize they are condemning most of these "precious babies" to a life of pure hell.

    Then, again, we are talking about a society that accepts we can euthanize our pets when they are suffering (and animals can't talk) but we have to keep old Aunt Betsy alive on machines despite her desire to be assisted to end her suffering (and she can think and talk). So, we are more humane to our pets than we are to our human loved ones.
     
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    Dude, why are you trying to be logical? ;-)
     
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    like people can find new jobs or get tested
     
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    exactly, want to reduce abortion, push for easier access to long-lasting birth control
     
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    LOL, the left headed tat way before TX. Like with Biden’s unconstitutional eviction meritorious and his new one with the mandate.

    As far as TX is concerned it did not ban abortions and government is not involved in a ban but a legal authority for civil suits.
     
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    Do as we dictate or lose your ability to feed your family. Jackboots.
     
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    This administration has the highest failure rate in court and the left claims Trump was a dictator.
     

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