43,644 people shot in America thus far this year

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  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't insurrection something that is invoked by the president as cause to deploy military forces? Does someone else have the authority to declare something an insurrection?
     
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    Clearly not. There was nothing to prevent the crowd from capturing almost every Representative and Senator if that hd been the objective. The absence of any effective security was astonishing.
     
  3. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    BULL !!! More guns gives us exactly what we live in, A PERPETUAL WAR ZONE !!!
     
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    Your OP looks like a guess, with no supporting link to speak of.
     
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    If you're going to use Benedict Donald not calling his insurrection an insurrection ... typical trumpublican logic. :eyepopping:
     
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    We have the FBI to Incite people to criminal violence. The FBI has been doing that for a very long time.

    “The government employed at least a dozen confidential informants to infiltrate groups of armed extremists who allegedly plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan, according to a new filing in federal court on Monday.

    The filing, made by one of the five defendants in the federal case, asked that prosecutors be ordered to share more information about those informants, their relationship with the FBI, and the specific roles they played in building the case. It came among a blizzard of 15 new defense motions in the high-profile case, including requests to move it to a different district, to suppress evidence from a search warrant, and to try at least one defendant separately from the others.

    Taken together, the new court papers offered a glimpse of the evolving defense strategies in the case, with several attorneys saying that they plan to argue that the FBI “induced or persuaded” the men to go along with the scheme.”
    BUZZFEED, The FBI Allegedly Used At Least 12 Informants In The Michigan Kidnapping Case, Defense attorneys said they will argue that the FBI “induced or persuaded” the defendants to go along with the violent, By Jessica Garrison, Ken Benzinger, July 12, 2021.
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...n-michigan-kidnap-plot?bfsource=relatedmanual
     
  7. Fangbeer

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    The law is Trumpian? Should we not follow the law on the matter?
     
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    Nonsense, gun control laws and "Gun Free Zones" create "perpetual war zones".
    Whenever the people are disarmed violent crime, including gun crime soars for reasons that should be obvious to everyone by now.
     
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    What's the war about? Do you really think it's the fact that they have guns? Does the reason to war stop when you take away the guns? Or will taking away the guns simply empower the folks that don't give them up?
     
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    Hey!!! That's no fair! You brought logic and ration to an emotional debate!!!
     
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    Actually the Capitol Police fought one hell of a holding action that gave them, and the Secret Service time to evacuate everyone.

    What was "astonishing" is self proclaimed patriots attacked OUR Capitol, yelling bloody murder and meaning it, destroying, vandalizing and with intent causing mayhem throughout THE most beautiful public building in the world. Going as far as wiping their **** on it's walls. :sad:

    There is no doubt they would have maimed and murdered everyone in the Capitol had not the Capitol police fought so effectively and bravely and with so little loss of life and injury.
     
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    If you're limiting an insurrection to events called such by our president, that's only one of a spectrum of possibilities.

    Attacking our Capitol, threatening our elected officials and their aids and wiping **** on the walls is another.
     
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    Who is we? I live in a State with Constitutional carry. Anyone who is not a convicted felon can carry a handgun open or concealed. It is very safe. The war zones are the liberal Dem run inner city sh*tholes. These areas do appear to be war zones and have very strict gun control.
     
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    Are you suggesting that I'm the one that makes up laws? Huh. I didn't know I had that power. I was under the impression that laws had to be voted on, written down somewhere, enforced by the executive branch, and interpreted by the judicial branch.

    In that case your post is a potential act of insurrection. Please head to your nearest Federal building for processing.
     
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    You showed us how to create a country that is a cross between a nanny state and a Nazi state where police terrorize and beat the sh*t out of people in the street with impunity.
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    Of course it's because we have more guns than people in the USA. The only thing you need to get a gun and ammunition in our country is the money to buy it, it is harder for teenagers to buy cigarettes in most of our cities than it is to buy a gun and ammo.
     
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    The places you're deriding were once bastions of capitalism before voodoo economics shipped OUR jobs and industry overseas. That's on Republicans not Democrats. Democrats were left to deal with the high unemployment, no tax base and disintegrating infrastructure. While you look down your nose. It's no wonder those people vote Democrat, Republicans destroyed their jobs their cities, their lives. :disbelief:
     
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    Really?? And exactly what state do you live in, so I can look up their shooting and death from it in your state.
     
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    I'm suggesting your wrong. As on any crime the act itself is proof the come took place.
     
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    they tried, but like most of Trump's plans to steal the election... it failed
     
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    We still need to build that giant wall, to keep the Americans contained.
     
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    Voodoo economics was a term created by H. Bush. Would you care to actually explain how and why you think supply side economics shipped jobs overseas?

    Of course big labor demanding wage and benefit increases independent of production gains had nothing to do with jobs going overseas?

    And what did Clinton, Obama, and now Biden do to bring jobs back to the US? Other than Jack S**t?

    The following book provides a good case study on how Democrats created the high crime urban sh**hole cities in America. You could learn something if you read it. Just sayin. But of course you won't.
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    If you are talking to me, I live in West VA. And if you want to quote statistics do from do so from a proper source. Not some Soros gun control group. In the stats I looked up (prior to Constitutional carry in West VA) the murder and manslaughter rate per 100,000 was 3.8 in West VA and 4.9 overall for the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

    With respect to carry without a permit.
    https://medium.com/@NRA/why-you-dont-need-to-freak-out-over-permitless-carry-1a3709355897
     
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    And we have-
    A large number of previously well behaved people losing it; because leadership is losing it and failing to act with any self-control or judgement. Result- violence and murders.
    We have a disease in the justice departments at most levels that feel sorry for criminals, but not for victims.Result- Violence and murders.

    We have a president that allows illegal aliens to invade your country without resistance or regulation. What's more, he invites them.
    Result- crisis, and and no idea what kind of criminal and economic damage it will do to us.... But Joe don't know... and Joe don't care.

    We have a crisis in border control which has nearly quadrupled the importation of fentanyl, the deadliest drug on the streets- We have drug deaths at a record high and rising.

    All that thanks to Joe Biden and the thugs he's put in power..... Or, that put hum in power and pull his strings.

    Whatcha gonna do, America?
    Who we gonna call?
     
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    They were probably. I believe that was the point of the protest. Stupid protest, actually. Most of them are.
     
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