The audit report is in for Maricopa county, AZ. Here it is.

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  1. Fred68

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    The audit report is finally in. And I am FURIOUS about the fraud it uncovered.

    I'm Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers. I am the Arizona State Senator fighting nationwide for audits and election integrity! Now we need to prosecute those who participated in this fraud. Help me fix the problems in Arizona and spread audits to all 50 states!

    The report is in. And the results are.... unbelievable. When you hear them, you'll understand why I'm calling to decertify the 2020 Arizona election.

    Let me break it down for you:

    -3432 more ballots cast than people who voted.
    -9041 mail-in voters retuned more ballots than they were sent.
    -More ballots cast at precincts than people who showed up to vote, by 1551.
    -2382 ballots cast by people who voted after moving out of Maricopa County.
    -Nearly 300 dead people voted.
    -Over 17,000 duplicate votes.
    -23,344 mail-in ballots voted after they moved, and after the deadline.

    Here is the explanation:

    Logan first explained that duplicate ballots, which are not the same as duplicated ballot envelopes, were co-mingled with original ballots. Many of these ballots had incorrect and missing serial numbers. However, these were very small numbers, which eventually corrected gave few hundred votes back to Biden, as the mainstream media originally mentioned before the Senate hearing – Logan attributed these to simple human error.

    He confirmed that ballot form numbers did not match up. EV32 voting forms, which match with votes sent, did not match the number of EV33 forms, for early votes returned. 9,041 more mail-in voters were shown as being returned than having been sent out with the EV32s. 397 mail-in ballots were never sent, and do not have a corresponding EV32. 255,326 early votes did not have a complimentary EV33.

    Many issues were also seen with voters who were registered as having moved. 23,344 voters voted via a mail-in ballot where nobody else of the same name was at the address, eliminating students and other people in similar family situations from the potential mix. Mail-in ballots cannot be forwarded, meaning the only legal way for these Maricopa voters to have received their ballot was to have picked it up in person, something the audit team considered unlikely. 2,081 voters even moved out of state and received a full ballot, not a “federal only” ballot.

    Logan claimed that potentially up to 5,047 individuals voted in more than one county, with voters having the same names and same birth year – 393 voters also had an incomplete name. 198 voters registered after the October 18th cutoff and still voted. Issues were also seen with the voter roll, where there were 2,681 unique AFSEQ numbers, which are supposed to be applied to voters for a singular transaction, being shared between voters. The Maricopa audit team said this suggested an election integrity issue with the ballot data itself. Other claims included 282 potentially dead voters and 186 people with potential duplicate IDs.


    There are over 50,000 problem ballots, way more than necessary to change the outcome in the 2020 election in Arizona.

    In other words, yes, there WAS fraud!
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    Any one of these discrepancies would be enough to merit decertification.

    Any one of them would make the Audit worth while.

    So now, we have PROOF of discrepancies sufficient to overturn the 2020 official election results in Arizona.

    It would be nice if the Fake News media didn't continuously LIE, boldfaced, about the Audit or its findings...
     
  2. MJ Davies

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    1. It's unclear to me if these discrepancies were found but not calculated. Just because they received duplicate ballots, doesn't mean they were actually counted.

    2. The totals seem to be relatively small meaning this wouldn't have changed the outcome for the electoral votes from that state.

    3. Meaning, I don't see how you're concluded this was "fraud" when it could possibly represent the expected % of errors in any election and/or human error.

    Do you have some information or idea on how these numbers look compared to election audits in other election years?
     
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  3. Fred68

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    I would suggest you contact the Senator to address your questions.
     
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    Does my Senator know why YOU think constitutes fraud?
     
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    Even if true we don't know if these votes favour Trump or Biden.

    If they favour Trump then Biden wins by a even bigger margin.

    If they favour Biden then Trump wins or Biden wins by a smaller margin.

    I read several of these were disputed and I'm no expert so I can't say if they are true but if so it does not mean a victory for Trump.
     
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    Let me restate the obvious
    The answer to the question is ...... this is what the numbers look when there is NO fraud....

    0 more ballots cast than people who voted.
    0 mail-in voters retuned more ballots than they were sent.
    0 More ballots cast at precincts than people who showed up to vote
    0 ballots cast by people who voted after moving out of Maricopa County.
    0 dead people voted.
    0 duplicate votes.
    0 mail-in ballots voted after they moved, and after the deadline.
     
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    By that definition, almost every single election, no matter how large or small in every city, state and county, has documented 'fraud' in it because almost none are statistically that perfect. You have two categories - perfect elections or fraudulent elections. What do you do with those slightly imperfect elections - where some nominal human or mechanical or systemic error is found?. Well to you, they represent 'fraud', which is odd because 'fraud' in courtrooms, normally requires some evidence of intent.

    Use of that word based on your standard here, speaks to your agenda not to this election.
     
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    It's impossible to do audits every election due to the cost. States just need to do better at having less of these slightly imperfect elections.
     
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    But that's the rub, you need more random ( read -not requested audits) to show these potential holes in these systems to diagnose the problems. County election budgets( where most of these audits are going to be done), are just too tight as it is! They are still trying to replace voting machines purchased in the 1970's!
     
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    I am thinking when 300 dead people vote... there is a problem... but that is just me...
     
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    It's you
    I send in my early ballot in Sept and die in Oct. My vote counts. I vote on Nov 2nd and die after in a car crash, my vote counts.
     
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    No... nice try... dead people don't vote....
     
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    He demonstrated how they can.
     
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    No.... one dead person voting ain't gonna happen....300 ain't gonna happen...
     
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    Why do people think there should be zero fraud in an election the size of one for US president? Of course there will be fraud. But there is a huge difference between pockets of fraud vs coordinated widespread fraud.
     
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    And the question remains.... Maricopa county is a single pockets of fraud in a single state ... how does one measure the total amount of fraud that may or may not have happened? In Arizona?... multiply that by 57 (per Obama)....Audits should be welcomed not demonized...
    We owe it to the American citizen to assure to each and every one that when they step up to the ballot box that their vote is fairly, legally, and accurately counted.... but that is just my two (errr 1.2 cents when Biden gets done) worth.
     
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    Democrats seem very silent in this thread
    Please do come in and lecture us on “the big lie”
     
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    Cast for which candidate(s)? Isn't that a key piece to know???
     
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    J. Edgar Hoover, of all criminal deviants, said there was no "Mafia" in America - he would dismiss the idea as a conspiracy theory held by kooks...
     
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    when did the voter die? seems reasonable that some may have died between mailing their ballot and election day, and even more before the ninjas audit.
     
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    It is the accuser of fraud that needs to prove fraud. Despite challenges, investigations, audits, a presidential commission for 2016, and news investigations all the voter fraud folks come up with is "if this happened it might indicate this". Voter fraud folks appointed set up and paid for two major fraud investigations only in those places they wanted investigated that found no evidence of fraud. Voter fraud people have made claims that have been proven untrue (more people voted than were registered, dead people voted...)
     
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    Yup. Nothing fraudulent here!

    -3432 more ballots cast than people who voted.
    -9041 mail-in voters retuned more ballots than they were sent.
    -More ballots cast at precincts than people who showed up to vote, by 1551.
    -2382 ballots cast by people who voted after moving out of Maricopa County.
    -Nearly 300 dead people voted.
    -Over 17,000 duplicate votes.
    -23,344 mail-in ballots voted after they moved, and after the deadline.
     
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    Pffft insignificant minor discrepancy.

    If the shoe were on the other foot Democrats would be looting, shooting, and burning the Country to the ground.
     
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    Aaaand, the audit of the audit is here:

    Nextcloud (real-audits.org)

    9 screenshots of some of the more important errors the Ninjas made are here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...in-botched-vote-audit.592546/#post-1072965836

    Serious errors. Stupid errors. Trumpian errors, of course.
     
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