1/6 committee to 'swiftly consider' criminal contempt for Steve Bannon, others who ignore subpoenas

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Why do they not apply to a "committee of this type"? Congressional subpoenas must be for a legislative purpose.

    "The Supreme Court has recognized Congress’s power to issue subpoenas, saying in order to write laws it also needs to be able to investigate.

    Congress’ power to issue subpoenas, while broad, is not unlimited. The high court has said Congress is not a law enforcement agency, and cannot investigate someone purely to expose wrongdoing or damaging information about them for political gain. A subpoena must potentially further some “legitimate legislative purpose,” the court has said."
    https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/explainer-can-congress-enforce-subpoena
     
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    Does Congress believe they are investigating actual crimes? Is that their intent?
     
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    We don't have to imagine it. We watched a president do it for four+ years.
     
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    I'm not defending Trump I'm defending the Constitution and the office of the Presidency. There is no evidence anyone in the Trump administration had anything to do with it and Congress does not oversee the President.
    As already noted Congress has investigative powers for LEGISLATIVE PURPOSES not criminal purposes.
     
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    If you have something to say from your cite say it.

    What is the legislative puspose of the Bannon subpoena?
     
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    Then they are acting unconstitutionally. They are acting as a criminal investigative body for which they have no authority and in this country you cannot be forced to testify against yourself.
     
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    Congress has oversight power over the president. https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-legislative-branch/
    I'm a little surprised you made that statement.
     
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    This, for the entirety of the Speaker's term it's been her to abuse her power, creating numerous puppet shows in Washington while ignoring the needs of the American People.
     
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    That's something Congress claimed, it's not legislated nor mandated by law. The legislative branch and the executive branch are by both design and law two totally different branches. And Trump, Bannon, etc are all private citizens not answerable to Congress. Rightly, another middle finger to a House that continues to fail the American People.
     
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    Make an example out of Bannon. Throw the book at the martyr wannabe.
     
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    What do you call the impeachment rules? "Claimed"?
    If Congress decides that a President is guilty of something, can't they throw them out of office? Why would anyone show up for a congressional subpoena if there isn't any recourse?
    I think they should have investigative powers that have some teeth. I think oversight should be an important part of our government.
     
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    Don't forget about the stolen laptop.
     
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    Ah yes, that they tried to sell to Russia.
    Crazy how the news was so insane all the time that stuff like that is forgotten.

    I might not like Biden that much but the relative peace is, peaceful.
     
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    Well, Russia is pro Trump, duhhhhhh. It's a personality cult we are dealing with.

    The bloody parallels to 100 years ago are shockingly stark.
     
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    Not the PRESIDENT, it has oversight of the various departments and officials on whom they advise and consent. There is a separation of powers between the Congress and the President and the President has Executive Privilege over intrusions such as this into his office and advisers. I'm surprised you think otherwise.
     
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    Yea let's just forget about due process and our constitutional rights because we still have not satisfied our vengeance against Trump!!
     
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    There is nothing unconstitutional about the 1/6 commission.

    You are wasting your time.

    To believe that, you'd have to believe that Trump just happened to be on Capitol Hill on January 6.

    It's obvious that Trump was the spark plug for this riot and that he was the one who fabricated the pretext for this attempt to overthrow democracy.

    But I understand that overturning an election isn't part of your duty to 'defend the office of the Presidency'...
     
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    It's so obvious that it wasn't obvious to the FBI(ROFL.) Seriously, Democrats, stop acting like 9/11 truthers. There wasn't a Russian conspiracy, there wasn't an insurrection. There was none of that. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it factual.(Literal Reagan quote.)
     
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    Why did the rioters storm the Capitol?
     
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    They are attempting to be a criminal investigative body, unconstitutional. They are demanding the papers of citizens not accused of any crimes, unconstitutional. They are demanding people give testimony against themselves, unconstitutional. They are trying to skirt around Presidential EP, unconstitutional.


    Trump was never on Capital Hill, he was blocks away urging people to act peacefully.

    And if all this is so obvious then why this Congressional investigation. You already know what happened according to your own post. What are you and they looking for here? What is the legislative purpose and be specific this time.
     
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    Just to be clear, you are saying no one has oversight on the president?
     
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    Why did the break into the Dept of Interior?
     
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    Its called Impeachment.. Which they tried what 4 times?

    You can not Impeach a Citizen.
     
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    It is an investigation, which they are will within their constitutional purview to do. No one is ever required to give testimony against themselves, but they are still called into court. As to EP, that you were trying to classify this event as something that should fall under that is absurd. Biden holds the authority to use EP — not trump —he has declined.


    of course, that’s why he said it’s going to “be wild“. How do you take it as a peaceful resolution when someone is telling you if you do not fight you are going to have your country stolen from you. They had already voted what other alternative was there?

    inconsistencies and stories, seeing if any other information is available so that they can refer it for prosecution

    if this had been a BLM attack on the capital, would you really be asking these questions or would you want every guilty person and every person that was involved to have the book thrown at them?
     
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    FBI investigates.. DOJ Prosecutes.. What is the issue? The FBI investigated and said no evidence of "planning".
     
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