The Attempt to Establish a Climate Ministry of Truth

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  1. Sunsettommy

    Sunsettommy Well-Known Member

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    How about the outright fabrications by the left?

    It goes both ways and YOU are free to post them without the partisan rancor.
     
  2. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    It’s not rancor pointing out a lie, all 2000 of them.
     
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  3. Sunsettommy

    Sunsettommy Well-Known Member

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    Yet you can't back up your claims at all which you were invited to do.
     
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  4. Jack Hays

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    Or by the left.

    BBC’s Fake Climate Audit Screengrab
    Oct 25, 2021 – 9:13 PM

    Justice Louis D. Brandeis in his concurring opinion in Whitney v. California (1927) wrote:

    "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."
     
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  5. dagosa

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    1927..gee that’s not very applicable to the right. They’re against education, you know, the learned elite.

    Do you have not something from the 1850s maybe ?
     
  6. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wisdom is both timeless and universal.
     
  7. Sunsettommy

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    Your continual strawman replies gets quickly old, did you by any chance read the link Jack posted?

    Your reply indicate you haven't look in it.

    BBC’s Fake Climate Audit Screengrab

    Hmmm....
     
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    Ah no. But I can go to the websites of 3400 universities and every climate related govt agency and every major corporation in the world that refute your premise.

    As far as your evidenced from reputable sources, EVERYONE that I’ve look at were misinterpreted , usually by the math illiterates that tend to follow the CC denier line.
     
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    What premise was that?

    Then you admit you have no case against Climate Audit who is clearly the victim of BBC lies, oh and by the way McIntire the author of the article you refused to see is a DEMOCRAT!

    He voted for Al Gore and Barak Obama.

    LOL
     
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    Ha ha
    He has no credentials. He doesn’t even represent any scientific community NOW. He was a consultant with a degree in philosophy.

    He blogs…..geesus. Anyone can blog. So he voted for Al Gore, a man you obviously highly respect because you’re using him as an indirect reference ? Can’t stop laughing at this one.

    ok , you have one article from a blog written by one philosopher . Once I get to this hilarious reference, I’m not going any further.


    But he voted for Al Gore…..gotta use that one.
     
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  11. Jack Hays

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    3400 universities have studied BBC dishonesty?
     
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    Steve McIntyre - Wikipedia
    ". . . McIntyre, a native of Ontario, attended the University of Toronto Schools, a college-preparatory school in Toronto, finishing first in the national high school mathematics competition of 1965.[2] He went on to study mathematics at the University of Toronto and graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in 1969. McIntyre then obtained a Commonwealth Scholarship to read philosophy, politics and economics (PPE) at Corpus Christi College, Oxford, graduating in 1971.[1][2] Although he was offered a graduate scholarship, McIntyre decided not to pursue studies in mathematical economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[2] . . . "
     
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    Groan,

    Oh dear I see that you didn't know his true background at all, it far more than you realized.

    You have nothing against the article after all, thank you for making that clear.
     
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    You do know a BS, bachelor of science degree IS NOT A DEGREE IN SCIENCE.

    Deciding not to do something is not a qualification. PPE .
    HTF is that related to CC ?

    HE BLOGS. He speaks for no one in science.

    BUT HE VOTED FOR AL GORE.

    ha ha
     
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    Well, you’re taken by someone who blogs.
    not speaks for a university, agency or corporate science entity…..
    But someone who blogs..

    I can blog, you can blog, Elmer Fudd can blog.
     
  16. Jack Hays

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    His BS was in mathematics. Two years at Oxford seems like a plus, not a minus.
    But McIntyre's impressive credentials aren't the topic. BBC dishonesty is the topic.
     
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    There is so much fluff it that, it’s hilarious. The only relevant one is he studied math. Anything else is as important as…He voted Al Gore. “Hey, I played baseball in Fenway Park, think I’ll write a blog.”
     
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    Now you are just flailing here, McIntire has published with Geophysical Research Letter 2005 and Energy & Environment 2003.

    The Wegman Report and the North Report supported the M & M claims.

    The Wegman and North Reports for Newbies
     
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    If it’s in a blog by philosopher, it’s meaningless. You do know what a blog is don’t you ?
    Anyone can blog about anything….and make up sht.
    Does this need to be explained to you ?
     
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    Irrelevant. The topic is BBC dishonesty.
     
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    When are you going to address the claimed BBC lies about McIntire? your deflection has failed here with me.

    Your mockery isn't helping you and your inability to address the post,

    BBC’s Fake Climate Audit Screengrab

    Isn't helping you here.

    I have to assume that you have nothing to offer but partisanship, off topic mocking.

    I am not impressed.
     
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    He doesn't want to discuss it because he KNOWS has no argument to offer about it.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Then you should ignore Realclimate since it is a..... drumroll, a BLOG!

    Or ignore Science of Doom since it is a blog!

    LOL
     
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