Birx tells Congress, saying more than 130,000 people died unnecessarily, Trump 'distracted'

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he over-reacted cause he was late to the game, he played it down and it was getting out of control

    he should of let Pence handle it
     
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    Was he supposed to insert the weight of the federal government when DeBlassio and Pelosi were out there hyping chinese new year? I mean, it might not be a bad idea to isolate San Fransisco and New York,... you might be onto something there... LOL

    Every time I see folks like you say these things, I'm reminded of what you said then. Whitewashing your history isn't working.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whitewashing?

    Republicans kept trying to blame Obama for Trump's failures....sad!

     
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    First you said Trump shut down the economy to help himself until you found out no president has such power
    Then you reversed course and said he issued guidelines to states
    Now you say he played it down

    Any more flip flops you want to add to the discussion
     
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    Yeah, Whitewashing.

    IGNORING what Pelosi did.
    After Trump mandated the travel ban because of the seriousness of Covid, Pelosi went to China Town February 29 2020 and told everyone to come down and walk through the markets because California had it under control infecting thousands.

    IGNORING what Cuomo did.
    On February 29 2020 he told everyone to ride the subways and go to concerts as there was nothing to worry about while Trump had his travel ban in place.

    IGNORING what Cuomo did.
    Who ordered infected patients into retirement homes killing thousands?

    IGNORING what Fauci did.
    It was Fauci and the Word Health organization that claimed Covid wasn't spread by human contact, then reversed that decision on January 18, 2020
    What should we do for Fauci's part in FUNDING the research that created the virus that killed millions globally?

    Whitewashing for fake Trumpisms
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    Yup. Why do you suppose Xiden is constantly failing. It wasn't because of anything Trump did. It's his set of choices, and policies. Fails.

    He can't even blame Trump for COVID since it was his (during the Obama years) funding decision that allowed the NIH to follow gain of function research in China in the first place. Obama/Xiden have their fingerprints all over this BS. As we have seen with the Fauci approach, Xiden seems to think all that is necessary for the "greater good" is rip out the public's vocal chords and shove their heads into a box full of infected sand flies. Xiden has reincarnated a Mengele for the ages.
     
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    Pelosi's impeachment completely tied up Congress right as this insidious disease was insinuating itself deeply into our society. Trump still did an amazing job. Biden's on pace to exceed Trump's death rate before Christmas, this is despite Trump having zero vaccines, and handing Biden 3 very effective vaccines.

    Good thing Biden wasn't President when this started. The pandemic required a "thinker" and a "doer" and Biden is neither.
     
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    You would first have to show how people changed their behavior as a result of trumps actions/messages. Are you able to show a significantly higher rate of infection among Republicans or that those calling him a liar made an exception and trusted him when it came to their life, health, and safety?

    If not, this is nothing but another tanTrump.
     
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    nope, you said that, I said Trump released the shutdown guidelines

    the shutdown was Trump's guidelines to the States

    Biden just released guidelines to the corps, does that mean he is not responsible for them forcing you to get the vaccine?

    it's the corps choice, vaccine or weekly tests, Biden is not deciding for them

    but I bet the right still says Biden is forcing them to get the vaccine
     
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    Because telling the truth would have given Americans an accurate picture of how bad the corona virus was and they could have taken appropriate precautions.
     
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    doesn't change a thing I said, just cause others did stupid things, does not excuse Trump of doing stupid things
     
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    By telling the truth about how serious the virus was.
     
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    Not so fast. Now you're backpedaling

    You claimed
    Until you found out Trump had no such power. Then you changed it to he provided guidelines.


    Wrong again, Biden has MANDATED the vaccine for all federal employees. That isn't a request.
    And he is asking businesses to mandate the same thing.
     
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    What truth? Who's truth? You seem to believe you have one, why not express it as a place to start a conversation from instead of hiding behind a rhetorical tool?
     
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    The truth he told Woodward.

    Are you going full Kelly Ann Conway here? Who's truth? The truth doesn't belong to a single person. It is simply the truth.

    No alternative facts.

    I do have the truth.

    “more deadly than your, you know, your — even your strenuous flus.” DJT

    “This is more deadly,” he said. “This is five per — you know, this is 5 percent versus 1 percent and less than 1 percent, you know. So, this is deadly stuff.” DJT

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...ump-coronavirus-deadly-downplayed-risk-410796
     
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    Yup. Why do you suppose Xiden is constantly failing. It wasn't because of anything Trump did. It's his set of choices, and policies. Fails.

    He can't even blame Trump for COVID since it was his (during the Obama years) funding decision that allowed the NIH to follow gain of function research in China in the first place. Obama/Xiden have their fingerprints all over this BS. As we have seen with the Fauci approach, Xiden seems to think all that is necessary for the "greater good" is rip out the public's vocal chords and shove their heads into a box full of infected sand flies. Xiden has reincarnated a Mengele for the ages.[/QUOTE]
    not sure who Xiden is?
     
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    But oh so rewarded to watch and read, FACTs trump fiction every time ;)
     
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    I am refering to corps
     
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    Which has what to do with your idea that Pelosi, Cuomo, and Fauci were all presidents?

     
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    you asked for clarification, I gave it to you... now you act like I meant something I did not... Sad!
     
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    LOL.. all I can say is you seem pretty invested in what the left decimated as the journalistic malfeasance of Bob Woodward.. But who cares, you don't seem to.

    Are you mad that the media only wanted to attack trump and perhaps they created the perspective you now have? It seems reasonable. It also doesn't demonstrate any real knowledge of truth on your part, just a willingness to regurgitate what you've been told to think. If you had the truth, you'd be fuming that the Obama/Xiden folks created the runway from which Covid sprang. And yet not a peep. You're far more wiling to denigrate Trump. Why just him? Schumer, Pelosi, et al were happy to tell anyone who would listen that COVID early in Jan/fed of 2020 wasn't a threat, and that is was entirely safe to rush to celebrations like Chinese New Year. Why? Who pays their bills? Just sayin.

    And to put a specific point on it, I don't trust what Woodward reported. He's a track history of getting things really wrong. As we have now seen this isn't even a 1% virus. It isn't even a .1% virus. So why do you insist on spreading what you should already know are falsehoods.
     
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    I was pointing out the deflection and false equivelency of comparing these three individuals to Trump.

    To put it in simple terms.

    Trump is President. Those three are not.
     
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    Trump can only thrive in chaos, that's what makes and keeps him relevant. He has caused Americans to die from COVID 19 but the blame game is easier than governing. Just ask the Trump republicans. Regardless, others are now left to try to pick up the pieces.
     
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    Thats your excuse for not holding Pelosi, Cuomo, and Fauci accountable for killing thousands? They aren't president so what they did is fine?
    Hypocrisy at its finest.
     
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