Should Biden Mandate that Food Stamp & Welfare Recipients get Vaccinated?

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  1. LangleyMan

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    There are the days when folks have covid before they have symptoms.
     
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    Yes, and that happens in both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. In fact, the vaccinated can spread the virus when they test positive and never have any symptoms and never get any symptoms. And, to make matters worse, most of the vaccinated who spread the virus and never get any symptoms never test positive for the virus because most don't get tested but they are spreading the virus anyway. These happen for equal amounts of times in both but when the unvaccinated get sick most quit going out because they are sick while the asymptomatic vaccinated are still spreading the virus.
     
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    Data exists. This is from British Columbia:

    "Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 29 to Nov. 4)
    • Not vaccinated: 255.0
    • Partially vaccinated: 60.9
    • Fully vaccinated: 26.6
    Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 22 to Nov. 4)
    • Not vaccinated: 58.0
    • Partially vaccinated: 14.7
    • Fully vaccinated: 3.0"
    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002125
    The British Columbia government. See above.
    Gaslighting Alert!
     
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    Uh, authoritarian is when you take away women's right to their own bodies and force them to gestate like cattle.....a TOTALY REPUBLICAN thing.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    The point is they never get it. Again, from British Columbia:

    "Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 29 to Nov. 4)
    • Not vaccinated: 255.0
    • Partially vaccinated: 60.9
    • Fully vaccinated: 26.6"
    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002125
     
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    They don't.



    YES! I care so much about human life that I don't want to see humans slowly tortured to death when they CHOOSE to end the suffering and EXPENSE early..





    Unborn children do NOT belong to some mythical creation.


    They belong to, and are part of, the woman they are in.

    They do NOT belong to "god" and certainly don't belong to YOU.

    YES, Democrats care about human life EVEN WOMEN'S....and Repubs do NOT.
     
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    You forgot some information, didn't you.
    There are 4,282 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 202,898 people who tested positive have recovered.
    Which are NOT included in your numbers.

    And you numbers show that 35% of vaccinated individuals are infected again but none of the numbers show pre infected Covid patients are infected again.

    You actually show vaccinated individuals (35% of the total) re-infected with Covid but think its gaslighting to show everyone will get Covid?
    Did you think about that before you posted it?
     
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    I never claimed the vaccine was a condom to the virus

    the virus helps train your body to fight covid if\when you get it, like all vaccines do
     
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    Don't forget the Republicans' "war on drugs."
     
  10. Libhater

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    Thanks for showing us just how much of a morally upstanding individual you portray not to be. Good job.
     
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    Authoritarian is when someone feels they have the right to tell you what must be injected into your body regardless of what you personally want.

    Bodily autonomy. Either it exists, or it doesn't. Pick one, stick with it.
     
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    The authoritarian personality is immune to appeals to reason.

    “Thus, for example, although appeals to his reason or to his sympathy are likely to be lost on him, appeals to his conventionality or to his submissiveness toward authority might be effective. (But it should be clearly understood that such activity would in no way reduce his conventionality or authoritarianism or his fascist potential.) Similarly it is consistent with what we know of the potentially fascist personality to suppose that he would be impressed by legal restraints against discrimination, and that his self-restraint would increase as minority groups became stronger through being protected. (But it must be remembered that it is the usual practice of the fascist to dress his most antidemocratic actions in a legalistic cloak.).
    THE AUTHORITARIAN PERSONALITY, Studies In Prejudice, T.W. Adorno, Else Frankel-Brinswik, Daniel J. Levinson, R. Nevitt Sanford, W. W. Norton Company, Inc. 1969. pp. 973,974.
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    For good reason because they weren't relevant to the point I was making about the vaccines protecting against contracting covid.
    No, you're misinterpreting the BC stats. From the same source:

    "As of Monday, Nov. 8, 2021, 90.3% (4,184,112) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 86.0% (3,986,497) have received their second dose."

    Excluding younger children, about 10% of the people are are having two-thirds of the new cases.
    The vaccinated 90% are 33% of the new cases and the unvaccinated 10% are 66% of the new cases.

    Do you understand now?
     
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    Then what are we arguing about? I merely said vaccinated people spread the virus and you were disagreeing with me. Now you seem to be agreeing. Vaccinate people DO spread the virus.
     
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    Strike one.
    Strike two.
    Strike three.
     
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    But far less than the unvaccinated.
     
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    Read my cite--see above in red.
     
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    You're not spreading it if you don't get it.
     
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    Those stats are only those who tested positive for Covid. They have nothing to do with who actually spread Covid to these people. We are talking about apples and car tires. The vaccinated spread the virus. They spread it to other vaccinateds and they spread it to unvaccinateds, who wind up in your statistics.
     
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    Yeah, I understand. Vaccinated individuals get Covid as well.
    Where are the stats for pre infected individuals who didn't get the vaccine.
    Showing vaccinated rates of infection and hospitalization is much higher than those who already had Covid with its 98,7% survival rate.
     
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    Very often. However, forum rules preclude us from pointing that out about individual posters. So one must resort to euphemisms. But we all know what those euphemisms refer to.
     
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    Whether they do, or they don't, isn't really the issue. The fact that they CAN is.

    Government is the biggest monopoly that exists. And the left is willing to just hand over all power to them for a little bit of comfort.

    We aren't apparently teaching the dangers of centralized government in school anymore.
     
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    This has nothing to do with body autonomy. I couldn't care less if the unvaccinated get sick or not. My concern is about OTHERS who they infect: people who can't get vaccinated, or people who simply can't develop enough anti-bodies even after receiving the shot. These people did the right thing. It should be considered criminal that they are put at risk out of shear political devotion. They even endanger their own unvaccinated children, who are not at an age to decide for themselves. Those who refuse to get their children vaccinated should be the first to be in prison. They are simply not fit to be parents.
     
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    The same is true for the unvaccinated. So what?
    What's your point?
    Huh?
     
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    Again: HOW in the world can you believe that this is some sort of serious argument?

    Look up the difference between a reckless act and an Act of God.

    Geeesh! Your attempt to excuse behavior that should be criminal is SO ridiculous! But then again, what else can you expect when somebody decides to defend something this absurd only because it's their party's political dogma.
     
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