of all trump supporters, the evangelicals are the most puzzling to me

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  1. Indlib

    Indlib Well-Known Member

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    Why does it matter?

    Are you saying that if the God I worship isn't your God then it doesn't count?

    Are you familiar with the first amendment?
     
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    It matters to me and matters to anyone who opposes the killing of the human race by supporting Abortion/Murder.
    But you are right that your pick of a particular god--be it Satan or Sanger who support the killing of the innocent and of the human race
    doesn't matter to me, for I have no control over people like that who are prone to do inhuman or anti human acts.
     
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    No the actual god that exists.
     
  4. Libhater

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    What in the world are you talking about?
     
  5. Indlib

    Indlib Well-Known Member

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    Satin is not a God and neither is Sanger.

    Your opinion on abortion does not give you the right to trample on my religious rights...or constitutional rights for that matter.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No .. a zygote is not a goat .. nor a child .. not on either a scientific - or religious basis.

    1) Secular - a) Science - Zygote is a single human cell .. part of a process of the cration of a human -- but will never be part of that human under creation .. is just a blueprint .. b) certainly not a person - when does the soul arrive (meaning when does the entity know it exists from a secular - philosophical- bioethical perspective)

    2) Religion -- YHWH had no issues with the Israelites killing children - babies - or fetuses .. and in fact commanded them to do so ..
    YHWH also commanded the sacrifice of Children .. first born preferred - not that this is much of an issue ... as we are talking the zygote ..
    more pertinent .. YHWH also commanded abortion in circumstances where the sperm donor was questioned.

    Your claim that all God's children were 'Precious" according to the Bible is demonstrably false nonsense -- coming up with some quote of someone claiming "Children are precious" from the Bible in desperate hopes of refutation fails horribly due to fallacy and massive contradiction.

    and these are Born Children -- never mind a zygote .. - a single human cell -- that will never be part of the human under creation .. will never be a single cell in the body of a human ..

    Over to you mate.
     
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    Are you referring to Trump? While conservatives hate government overspending, republicans, like democrats, love it. I hate when the government overspends no matter who is president. I can't help but think you believe I am a Trump supporter. I'm not. I am a Trump defender against all the lies levied against him. Lies like "King of debt."
     
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    lies like this :

    “I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me,” Trump told Norah O’Donnell in an interview that aired on “CBS This Morning.” “I’ve made a fortune by using debt, and if things don’t work out I renegotiate the debt. I mean, that’s a smart thing, not a stupid thing.”
     
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    Ouch.
     
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    Make that ideologues - of every flavour.
     
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    The 2nd impeachment had a few Rs also voting for impeachment. so it was bipartisan. Likely the most bipartisan of all 4 impeachments. Note: all 4 were acquitted in the Senate. That doesn't negate the impeachment, it just means they stayed in office.
     
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    There are only three impeached presidents in United States history, meaning only three presidents have been charged by the House of Representatives with committing "high crimes and misdemeanors." Those presidents are Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump.

    To date, there has not been a president removed from office using the impeachment process. Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and Donald J. Trump were not convicted by the Senate.
    https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-who-were-impeached-3368130

    The only president ever to be impeached 2X and lose as an incumbent. So much winning.
     
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    Ask and ye shall receive.
    Is it surprising you aren't aware of this?
     
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    What does my religious faith (whatever it is, or the lack thereof) have to do with who I vote for (or SHOULD vote for) in a secular nation? I don't think there's been a "saintly" leader since Jimmy Carter, and look how that administration turned out. I don't give a damn what my church says or doesn't say about politics, American or otherwise. Two separate things.
     
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    So is "build back better' after you tear it down the mark on your forehead with Karl Marx your savior?? Give me a break!
     
  16. dairyair

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    Right or left had nothing to do with getting laughed at. It was his asinine statement, lie, about his achievement. A lie.
     
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    If you understood the scriptures and the history of mankind, you would see that God has used men with clay feet to lead Nations in a way that is best for His People. Now I think it would be within keeping of the "spirit" of the thread for the OP to show how Joe Biden has done a contrasting godly job! (you can avoid the fact he is a pro abort and stands apart from his own Church on that issue alone)
     
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    You took my words out of context. I said that GOD's children are precious in my book and in my Bible, not from any other Bible you may have had in mind. While there is no quote in the original Christian Bible that says "Children are Precious", I find it to be quite troubling that people like yourself find someone-anyone claiming that children are precious is anything but a good inspiring attribute for someone-anyone to have.
     
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    Most business men would understand exactly what he said. Apparently you and Sleepy Joe don't. I am a builder. I have a mortgage on my house. I borrowed against my house to build several spec homes and turn a profit. I borrowed against it to build a restaurant and rental projects. I am retiring now but I can pay off my house anytime. Debt allowed me to do that. Trump is a much better business man than I. He uses those same principles. Creepy Joe has depended on Government and Hunter to make him rich by contrast. You like that?
     
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    You know, LH, there are many words you could quote to prove your point....but don't waste them on a scoffer. You know as well as I do that "God knew us before he knitted us together in our mothers womb"!
     
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    Ramp, have you ever met a Fundie? They are the most hateful, judgmental, self-righteous egotistical people on the planet. Why wouldn't Orange Jesus be their "Chosen One"? He is the absolute embodiment of all that and more evil.
     
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    How sad that you have no ability to understand what acquitted means.... I bet the 2 X's (acquitted).... is what is throwing you off..... that means the house had 2 fake impeachments and the senate did not go along with their childish game...so he was acquitted both times

    here is what acquit means if it helps you out...

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    Which of the four impeachment was justified? I suggest NONE was justified, they were all politically motivated.
     
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  25. dairyair

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    How sad you can't understand English, when using different words.
    But you did give me one hell of a chuckle.
     
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