Is Systemic or Institutional Racism still a thing?

You mean the 'systemic racism' which has seen NON-WHITE Americans reach the top of your wealth and education statistics, and hold firm in that number one position? That racism?

 

White conservatives can't see the racism and generally deny or rationalize away the charges of racism inherent in society and blame it on the "left" beating the "race drum". Actually 80% of African Americans believe there is systemic racism and something needs to be done about it. It's not the "left", it an entire culture's complaint that the right is ignoring and the left is listening to.

The "slander" is coming from you...and another study you dismissed, typical. The EEOC has been busy if you didn't know.

It seems you are having trouble with the word "racism".

 

There you go with the racist generalizations again.

There you go with the magic word that you think relieves you from the provision of evidence in order to declare guilt. "Inherent" is not a magic word that allows you to reasonably slander others without convincing evidence. In our Constitutional Liberal Democracy we are inherently evaluated as innocent, unless and until personal guilt is established by high quality evidence, laced together with sound reasoning and presented with an opportunity to rebut. This is altogether proper, correct and as it should be. You on the other hand just spay about vile and slander like a dog that got into the bag of halloween chocolate. Your unfound claims reflect on none other than you.

Stick to reason, evidence and logic and you'll feel much better about yourself and those around you.

And as for your claims that you are "helping" the Black Community? The Left fully controls the squalor that they live in and has for two or more generations. The idea that you are 'helping' them? By burning down their downtowns and turning their shopping areas over to smash and grab looters? You are not helping them at all, and they are becoming more and more aware of that.

 

Only if you define the group as al those "who had rights taken away, were prevented from accumulating wealth through no fault of their own". CRT defines the group as all blacks which is not true.

You are not contradicting anything I stated.

 

Maybe the other poster is talking about the systemic racism that leads to whites having lower levels of income and higher incarceration rates than Asians......... I jest as CRT only considers racial disparity that favors whites and disfavors non whites as systemic racism. So the racial disparity in the NBA that favors blacks is never viewed as racism. Ignorant assumptions at the foundation of CRT.

 

Are you suggesting those NON WHITE people at the top of America's wealth stats are racist?

 

She's just suggested that I don't understand what racism is, so your post is bang on.

 

That 80% of African Americans (actually few of them have ever been to Africa) represents the number that have been taught to see themselves as victims. This has been going on since the early sixties. Keep beating the drum, but eventually they'll follow the 20% that see themselves as "Americans!"

 

Yeah, we understand what racism is. They and CRT define it differently. For them ANY racial disparity that favors whites and disfavors blacks is by definition systemic racism. Blacks dont do as well on math tests as whites so by definition math tests are systemic racism.

 

Ay, dios mio. You demand a court of law verdict instead of the court of public opinion....well it doesn't work that way.

My "racist generalizations" about the right have come from my many interactions with them and it is borne out in surveys, like here. The majority of conservatives say a problem worse than racial discrimination is seeing racial discrimination where there is none. In other words dismissing, discounting, minimizing the complaints of the majority of the Black population. So the right lacks empathy for the feelings of a community of fellow citizens and dismiss or deny any evidence of the problem...as demonstrated by you.

Then you cry about vile and slanderous accusations, but you go on to say Blacks live in "squalor" and those that agree they have legitimate racial complaints are criminals. That's like me saying the right is made up of white supremacists....nonsense.

What other "group" did you have in mind that was systematically denied civil rights, segregated, and denied loans?

So, in other words, you dismiss the judgement of the majority of African Americans as incompetent tools of the left. What can be more racist?

Favoring whites and disfavoring blacks is the definition of racism. Math does not do that. How they get there does.

 

Yes they do. Blacks dont score as well. Or another example, 96% of white voters have ID while only 94% blacks do. So by CRT definition, requiring IDs is systemic racism that disfavors blacks and favors whites. The perpetuation of white supremacy and all of that. "Jim Crow 2.0. Absurd theory this CRT. Not surprising how much you embrace it.

 

Fake News. You fabricated that.

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That's how some folks lead into their fabrications.

You are the one obsessed with skin color, not me. There is only one race, the Human Race and we all bleed red.

 

Favoring/disfavoring on account of skin color most certainly is.

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"According to Rufo, school staff said the event was organized by its "Dean of Culture" Nicole Tembrock." Sounds like a nice racket. I wonder what her annual salary runs.

 

So, in other words, you dismiss the ability of African Americans to refuse to let the past define their future? To be bigger and better than any residual racism, just like the dark-skinned migrants who don't have the same troubles?

Who is really claiming you are "incompetent"?

 

For a minute I actually thought that was a sign from the 1950's. No joke.

 

The left sees them as "incompetent tools". I do not dismiss their judgement. You came up with the percentages. I think since the 1960's the left has pounded it into the heads of may of dark skin pigmentation that they are helpless without special treatment of government and that government is always there for them even when they have children out of wedlock. They are weak and deserving of "special treatment". It becomes a generation thing. I would dismiss your 80%- 20% and say it should be updated to probably 60%-40% as many are coming off the "government plantation". Now personally edna, when are you going to start seeing people as Americans instead of superficial identities as signified by skin color? America is far more diverse than many nations but "out of many come one".

 

A system that favors whites and disfavors blacks is racist. Explain how mathematics favors whites?

Just having unequal scores does not mean a math problem is racist, you seem to be confused, along with your interpretation of CRT.

The examples you gave of those supporting the complaints of African Americans were law breakers. How is that fake news/fabrication?

So you can't think of another group whose total culture was influenced by slavery, segregation and discrimination? But you suggest they call someone who cares.

Can you define racism without referring to race?

A bad idea (and cancelled). Your point?

Where did you pull that out of? I don't dismiss the ability of Blacks to refuse to let the past define their culture or themselves. They do that every day.

No, since the 60's and before the right has ignored, dismissed and minimized the complaints of African Americans. A better question you can ask is when is the right going to take seriously the complaints of African Americans instead of relying on the tropes of the right to ignore them?

 

Fake News. The disparity could be due to any number of things other than immutable characteristics, for example: 90% of all people incarcerated in America are male. Does this "prove" gender bias? Of course not. If the accuser wishes to lodge a valid charge of gender bias in a specific case they would need to present evidence, no merely handwave at a statistic that could be due to any number of things.

Your claim about my action is a fabrication.

It's the Left that runs the cities where they live in crime ridden squalor and attend failing schools.

A better question you can ask is when is the Left is going to give them the representation their loyal support deserves.

 

First off, edna, I don't know of any black American's who consider themselves Americans, that refer to themselves as "African American". That is unless they are Black Nationalists or Separatists. That makes them racist by definition. Complaints have been handled about as good as it is going to get. We've had a Black Marxist President now we are seeing many Blacks gain prominence with traditional American values. I know you don't like it but you need to stop seeing everything through the lens of race. Black is not a monolith. They are composed of individuals like every other race.

 

You're very uninformed on basic history it was not the Republicans who opposed the civil Rights movement.

 

I am not convinced that our friends here see black and poor as synonymous.

 

I am richer than you, but you look like people who oppressed people who looked like me, so gimme your lunch money.

 

I work 40 hours a week and pay taxes, in fact I'm working right now until 6:00 a.m..

They can subtract their reparations from my tax money in the form of welfare.

 

No, it is you that is confused. Blacks dont score as well on math tests.

"When I See Racial Disparities, I See Racism" Kendi

"Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon" Kendi

Such strong feelings regarding a topic you know nothing about.

 

“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids,” Joe Biden