Novak Djokovic to remain in visa limbo until Monday as he fights deportation from Australia

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  1. Arleigh

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    And perfect hair, clean and styled. Both actresses in that movie were gorgeous.
     
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    I just finished reading The History of Scotland, by Magnus Magnusson. Very interesting read and there is a chapter devoted to William Wallace. Not sure the author shares your same view of Wallace, but you are right- the movie is a distortion of the truth.

    Where I respectfully disagree with you is on the “disgraceful” part. I do not think the movie is an anti-English propaganda film. It touches on the brutality that existed on both sides. Not all English monarchs were holy and good.
     
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    If you cannot abide the rules of a country, you should be kicked out right?
     
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    They certainly weren't all holy and good but I have a big problem with films that distort the truth. Rewriting history is the mark of authoritarianism as Orwell wrote
    “The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”
     
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    Well, it was a movie, in movie theaters, not a historical factual documentary. Even documentaries can be biased or distort the truth.
    I do not see this movie as “re-writing” history. I see it as entertainment that pulled at my heart strings and made we want to explore more of the history of Scotland, England, and Ireland. That I believe is a good thing,

    I love the NetFlix show “The Last Kingdom”. Of course that is not historically correct. But, I love the character, thus, perhaps I will get around to reading more about the Viking and Scandinavian history.
     
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    You think the average movie goer understands the distinction?
    I'm not convinced.
    How many Americans think they won WWII with little or no help from anyone else, for example?
     
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    I cannot speak for the average movie goer, but I would think that most people understand it is a movie and that the director/screenwriter may inject story lines to make the film more interesting.

    With regard to Braveheart, Wallace’s wife was murdered by the English and it is not known what happened to their young daughter.

    Why are you now moving to WW2?
     
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    To reinforce my point about the importance of historical accuracy.
     
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    But you have not pointed out what is “disgraceful distortion ” about the movie Braveheart. Sorry, I cannot follow you down to the WW2 insertion.
     
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    Probably aught to move this to another thread for a full discussion but I'm watching the hockey right now.
    My main problem is that Wallace is portrayed as a noble peasant fighting English tyranny from from his turf thatched hovel when in fact he was a member of the Scottish aristocracy who were every bit as tyrannical when it came to the lives of ordinary Scottish peasants.

    ... and GO LEAFS GO.
     
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    Sure. Wallace was the 2nd son of a small landowner and not much is known about his early life. Not sure where the claim of Scottish aristocracy is coming from. He was an antagonist of the English rule and seems to have come to historical significance starting in his 20’s. When the English murdered his wife, described as a cruel death, his murderous rampage ignited.

    ‘Still not seeing the “disgraceful distortion “.

    Anyhoo, good luck with the hockey game!
     
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    https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-william-wallace/
     
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    Tennis Channel just reported Novak is in the draw, as the #1 seed, playing a fellow Serbian in the 1st round. Time will tell if this comes to fruition.
     
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    Australia cancels Novak Djokovic’s visa again, renewing doubt over tennis star’s ability to compete in the Australian Open

    Australia cancels Novak Djokovic’s visa again, renewing doubt over tennis star’s ability to compete in the Australian Open
    Immigration Minister Alex Hawke used his personal power to cancel the unvaccinated player’s visa for a second time, saying it was in the public interest to do so, amid questions over whether Djokovic lied on an immigration form about contracting the coronavirus and his recent travel before arriving in Australia last week.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0.8V0Zt_1HZ-SuVJK19-p5u_0ik3m7zl3xM_NoY83OMqs
     
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    If accurate….good! This spoilt brat (why does tennis attract so many of them…??) has been playing yes-no games with officials for months and has now been caught lying twice on his entry docs…

    Piss him right off…..
     
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    Well, well, well it appears Scott Morrison has a backbone after all.
     
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    Prime Minister Scott Morrison shared a statement on Friday evening:

    “I note the Minister for Immigration’s decision in relation to Mr Novak Djokovic’s visa,” he said. “I understand that following careful consideration, action has been taken by the Minister to cancel Mr Djokovic’s visa held on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so. “This pandemic has been incredibly difficult for every Australian but we have stuck together and saved lives and livelihoods. “Together we have achieved one of the lowest death rates, strongest economies and highest vaccination rates, in the world. “Australians have made many sacrifices during this pandemic, and they rightly expect the result of those sacrifices to be protected. “This is what the Minister is doing in taking this action today. “Our strong border protection policies have kept Australians safe, prior to Covid and now during the pandemic. “Due to the expected ongoing legal proceedings, I will be not be providing any further comment.”
     
  20. Egoboy

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    Well, I was totally wrong on that one... I figured they'd let him stay and test the crap out of him. The pro vax sentiment down there is clearly more powerful than it is in the US... Good for ya...

    Djokovic's lawyer:

    SNIP
    He said that, according to Mr Hawke’s reasoning, Djokovic “complied with the law” in all respects, posed “only a negligible risk to others”, was a person “of good standing”, and had a valid “medical reason for not being vaccianted”.
    ENDSNIP

    I'm not sure how submitting a false visa application puts you in good standing.

    Also, I didn't know he was claiming a valid medical reason.... I'd like to know exactly what that is.... Not wanting to do it is not a valid medical reason....

    What's the word on the chances of appeal working??
     
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    The little tyrants of Australia have spoke.

    Australian Immigration Minister Alex Hawke said Friday he used ministerial discretion on the grounds of public interest to cancel Djokovic’s visa.
    "Today I exercised my power under section 133C(3) of the Migration Act to cancel the visa held by Mr Novak Djokovic on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so," Hawke said in a statement.

    Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison added: "They rightly expect the result of those sacrifices (Australians have made) to be protected. The pandemic has been incredibly difficult for every Australian, but we have stuck together and saved lives and livelihoods.

    Are we sure this isn't China?
     
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    Don't not follow the rules if you cannot accept the consequences...

    Djokovic selfishly denies tennis fans from watching his sometimes brilliant play... I just don't understand why people like that don't recognize how this will tarnish his name forever...

    Do you think of Roger Clemens or Barry Bonds the same way you did during their on-field greatness??
     
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    At some point, the government of Australia will have to see the folly of their own tyranny here. Or maybe they won't. And they will just simply emulate China. The reputation of the nation though, that's been compromised because a few power drunk idiots chose to really put their nation at risk by choosing to put folks in camps, suspend liberty in their country, or otherwise re sane or rational about WuFlu.

    They will have their pandemic, eventually. And if not today, it will come in later. And all the histrionics and platitudes of folks like Morrison and Hawke will have produced nothing for the people of Australia, except for the lesson that government being the only possessors of guns allowed the government to herd their folks into concentration camps in much he same way Chinese communists attacked their Uyghers..
     
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    Which wasn't what even Hawke said. But why not just write your own version. Oh wait, you did.

    A medical exemption was approved by the Victoria state government and Tennis Australian, allowing him to obtain a visa to travel. However, the Australian Border Force rejected the medical exemption and canceled his visa when he landed in Melbourne on Jan. 5.

    The 20-time major champion was holed up in a Melbourne immigration hotel until a judge reversed the decision. He was then picked as the No. 1 seed for the tournament and was able to practice at Rod Laver Arena ahead of the Open.

    And then, because the little prick could, mr Hawke said... no. Pretty pejorative huh.. But you want to still hide behind the "he broke the rules"? Fair enough. It just isn't accurate and you know it.

    Time for folks to treat Australia as the petty little dictatorship is has become.
     
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    We wouldn't be here if his visa application was valid, so yeah, he broke the rules... the rest is just political spin, which we are all used to by now...
     
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