Unsigned Trump order told Pentagon to seize voting machines

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Having read it, I would say a lawyer wrote it. That is really strange because a lawyer would understand the illegality of such an order. Maybe he wanted to do that. If he did, somebody rightly talked him out of it. It could be nonsense as well. I'll take it as a typical partisan attack. Since nothing happened then it isn't very important.
     
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    That's a defense of these Americans, not Trump. My argument doesn't mention Trump.
     
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    Our parties each have (or normally do) have factions which serve that purpose and do it better for each party
     
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    Ok. They are still wrong and have been proven to be wrong.
     
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    So you think Trump dictated the letter
     
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    So you think Trump wrote the document? All of it?
     
  8. Arkanis

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    What I think as I read you is that Trump was right to say he could kill someone on 5th avenue and still keep his supporters.

    Keep defending a fascist.

    That's very honorable for a former military man.
     
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    Wow, thats a lot of information derived from a simple yes or no question
    Did you think Trump wrote the document.

    It would seem your pretty emotional about that question.
    I wasn't aware it was that scary for you.
     
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    its clear based on the content that he had a hand in its drafting

    his extremist supporters were urging him to declare limited martial law and seize the voting machines in the 6 states he lost, weeks before 1/6
     
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    Of course.

    I am not the one who went all the way to the Supreme Court to prevent it from being made public.
     
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    So since Trump wrote it, seems you and Trump agree on a few things.
    I didn't realize you agreed with Trump on anything

    “I would like to begin today by addressing the heinous attack that took place yesterday at the United States Capitol,” it opens. “Like all Americans, I was outraged and sickened by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem.

    “The Demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American Democracy, “I am directing the Department of Justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the fullest extent” of the law.”

    We must send a message - not with mercy but with justice. To those who engaged in acts of violence and destruction, I want to be very clear: you do not represent me. You do not represent our movement. You do not represent our country. And if you broke the law, you belong in jail.”


    I guess that kills all your Trump insurrection theories.
     
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    Roger Stone wanted Trump to do martial law, and have the military take over the election.



    Mike Flynn also wanted martial law.
     
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    Great riff on "I know you are but what am I?" Pure grade school artistry.
     
  19. Ronstar

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    ..and the conspiracy theory begins.

    are you saying the meeting never happened??
     
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    So he just thought about it. He's not in power now, the jackass in the white house presently is. While the calamity at the hands of the present leadership is at play, said leadership is ignorant of the current crisis.

    I can't wait to replace this historically epic fail of a leadership in 2022 and 2024 via the ballot box.
     
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    I simply asked a simple question to get further information that you cannot or will not answer. Who reported this meeting? Did this person participate in the meeting? Are they credible? If you are going make a claim, providing some supporting facts or post it in the opinion section of PF.

    We have a tradition in America that people are innocent until proven guilty. A wild claim without facts is a conspiracy theory.
     
  23. Ronstar

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    people are innocent until proven guilty of CRIMES. This meeting itself was not a crime, so the article in the NY times is valid evidence that it took place.
     
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